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Just curious... Suicide drones... how is that different from missiles?

jxcole 6y ago
I think it's mostly psychological...since missiles move so quickly you might not be able to see them people think of them as more like bullets, regardless of the complex technology involved. People see these slow moving AI powered drones and they think it's a suicidal robot.
amitport 6y ago
They have bigger wings... This article is just anti-Israeli propaganda I find it disappointing to read how it's being received on HN --- EDIT: Why is this being down-voted? Are those drones different from missiles in a meaningful way? No, certainly not in any "ethical" way Is there a reason to single-out Israel here? No Explain if you disagree and actually have some knowledge and experience with this international industry.
- skinkestek 6y ago
  HN is slightly anti-jewish. It is just a matter of fact. A good thing however is it seems to changing slowly towards a more nuanced perspective. Here's a true story which kind of describes a very similar situation but with a different outcome than what we've seen (yet). For years I was bullied at school, and anytime I took revenge teachers arrived swiftly, telling me that even if the others started I wasn't allowed to respond. I still did though but it was obvious that I got more trouble for it than them. Then I came to a new school. Pattern continues. I complained, nobody did anything. Then one day I gave another bloke a real beating, and for a change my teacher stepped up and told the other teachers that if they couldn't ensure skinkestek was left alone they better not interfere when I gave the bullies a beating. That was the last fight. Once they realized they wouldn't get any sympathy anymore it stopped. My siblings also stopped being harassed. Generally everything got quieter because I was top dog now - and I didn't want to fight. I feel this is the same in middle east. Israel is strongest but want peace. The international community keeps this conflict going like my teachers used to do by verbally abusing the strong but peaceful one. My guess is the moment Hamas realizes there is no more sympathy to be gained by doing insane attacks that only serve to anger the neighbor then we'll get peace.
  - tomcooks 6y ago
    This is about Israel not Jews. Israel is a country, Jews are not a country. Israel is not made of Jews, there are other religions in Israel. Why do you have to invent things and call them "matter of fact", such as Israel being a bastion of peace when they invest so much money and energy on Army and weapons or HN being pro/anti certain religions, is beyond my comprehension.
    - amitport 6y ago
      Funny you say this is beyond your comprehension AND be so biased against Israel. Either you're incredibly naive about what an actual threat to a country and its civilians means (oh no! they invest in Army and weapons), or you're just a little bit anti-semite.
      - Banana699 6y ago
        Just an honest question: do you think Manifest Destiny and killing native Americans was justified or in any way legitimate ? If you answer with a no, how can you support a country that arose and expanded exactly the same way ? is it the "old homeland" bullshit Israeli propoganda loves to spew ? If so, why not be completely fair and give back the balkans to the turks or spain to the Greeks or the whole mediterranean coast to the Italians?, the last two in particular were a true homeland for their conquerors for at least a millennia. What's the difference ? Its ridiculous and pathetic you want to frame this as an attack against jews. I guess you took a page from ultra-islamists calling every criticism of islam "Islamophobia". But that's just you closing your ears and shouting "Blah Blah Blah I don't hear you.. Israel good, Israel good, Israel good", _Every_ Nation State in existence is an organized crime organization with a seat in the UN, Israel is just unlucky enough to have come late to the game, when Universal Human Rights were recognized as a good idea. You don't gain points for pointing out how this country or that killed n millions more than Israel, at least those other mobsters got a claim to the territory they rule that is more solid than "Well there is this book that a sky daddy wrote and it says right there that this piece of land belongs to us".
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m463 6y ago
Probably harder for missiles to hover or turn corners.

I think it's mostly psychological...since missiles move so quickly you might not be able to see them people think of them as more like bullets, regardless of the complex technology involved. People see these slow moving AI powered drones and they think it's a suicidal robot.

amitport 6y ago

They have bigger wings... This article is just anti-Israeli propaganda I find it disappointing to read how it's being received on HN --- EDIT: Why is this being down-voted? Are those drones different from missiles in a meaningful way? No, certainly not in any "ethical" way Is there a reason to single-out Israel here? No Explain if you disagree and actually have some knowledge and experience with this international industry.

skinkestek 6y ago
HN is slightly anti-jewish. It is just a matter of fact. A good thing however is it seems to changing slowly towards a more nuanced perspective. Here's a true story which kind of describes a very similar situation but with a different outcome than what we've seen (yet). For years I was bullied at school, and anytime I took revenge teachers arrived swiftly, telling me that even if the others started I wasn't allowed to respond. I still did though but it was obvious that I got more trouble for it than them. Then I came to a new school. Pattern continues. I complained, nobody did anything. Then one day I gave another bloke a real beating, and for a change my teacher stepped up and told the other teachers that if they couldn't ensure skinkestek was left alone they better not interfere when I gave the bullies a beating. That was the last fight. Once they realized they wouldn't get any sympathy anymore it stopped. My siblings also stopped being harassed. Generally everything got quieter because I was top dog now - and I didn't want to fight. I feel this is the same in middle east. Israel is strongest but want peace. The international community keeps this conflict going like my teachers used to do by verbally abusing the strong but peaceful one. My guess is the moment Hamas realizes there is no more sympathy to be gained by doing insane attacks that only serve to anger the neighbor then we'll get peace.
- tomcooks 6y ago
  This is about Israel not Jews. Israel is a country, Jews are not a country. Israel is not made of Jews, there are other religions in Israel. Why do you have to invent things and call them "matter of fact", such as Israel being a bastion of peace when they invest so much money and energy on Army and weapons or HN being pro/anti certain religions, is beyond my comprehension.
  - amitport 6y ago
    Funny you say this is beyond your comprehension AND be so biased against Israel. Either you're incredibly naive about what an actual threat to a country and its civilians means (oh no! they invest in Army and weapons), or you're just a little bit anti-semite.
    - Banana699 6y ago
      Just an honest question: do you think Manifest Destiny and killing native Americans was justified or in any way legitimate ? If you answer with a no, how can you support a country that arose and expanded exactly the same way ? is it the "old homeland" bullshit Israeli propoganda loves to spew ? If so, why not be completely fair and give back the balkans to the turks or spain to the Greeks or the whole mediterranean coast to the Italians?, the last two in particular were a true homeland for their conquerors for at least a millennia. What's the difference ? Its ridiculous and pathetic you want to frame this as an attack against jews. I guess you took a page from ultra-islamists calling every criticism of islam "Islamophobia". But that's just you closing your ears and shouting "Blah Blah Blah I don't hear you.. Israel good, Israel good, Israel good", _Every_ Nation State in existence is an organized crime organization with a seat in the UN, Israel is just unlucky enough to have come late to the game, when Universal Human Rights were recognized as a good idea. You don't gain points for pointing out how this country or that killed n millions more than Israel, at least those other mobsters got a claim to the territory they rule that is more solid than "Well there is this book that a sky daddy wrote and it says right there that this piece of land belongs to us".
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m463 6y ago

Probably harder for missiles to hover or turn corners.