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You’re definitely, definitely wrong. This is not true. WhatsApp messages have E2E encryption by default, you can not opt out, and the keys (each message has a
by pgalvin 6y ago
You’re definitely, definitely wrong. This is not true.
WhatsApp messages have E2E encryption by default, you can not opt out, and the keys (each message has a different one) are never sent to WhatsApp or anybody else.
Users may OPTIONALLY enable a cloud backup, which puts an encrypted backup on iCloud or Google Drive. WhatsApp (Facebook) holds the key for this, but not the data, and law enforcement would need the cooperation of Facebook and Google/Apple to access the messages.
But that is all completely opt-in. By default, messages are not backed up, contrary to what you said.
Full disclosure: I use WhatsApp but am eager to switch away from it a soon as Signal implements a local backup on iOS.
- ffpip 6y ago> WhatsApp (Facebook) holds the key for this, but not the data, and law enforcement would need the cooperation of Facebook and Google/Apple to access the messages. It is a plaintext backup to Google Drive, whatsapp does not encrypt it before uploading it to Drive or iCloud. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26458102 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26458102 > But that is all completely opt-in You cannot control your contacts backup settings. Every contact I have (100+) has enabled the backup option, meaning all my 'e2ee' chats are uploaded in plaintext to Google servers. With Telegram, I can be sure e2ee/secret chats with my contacts are not going anywhere other than the device they were delivered to.