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A more humane version may be to set up turrets with auto-aim lasers that can instantly blind targets rather than outright kill them.

by xwdv 6y ago

ceejayoz 6y ago
That'd be an explicit war crime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_Certain_Conventional_Weapons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_Certain_Conventi... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_on_Blinding_Laser_Weapons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_on_Blinding_Laser_Wea...
- foota 6y ago
  Right, better shoot them instead. Maybe we just need a new convention on AI weaponry.
  - badRNG 6y ago
    You can use this line of thinking to justify any war crime that doesn't involve killing the adversary. "Well, we could've just killed them, better we dragged them to a black site to be tortured instead." A scenario where Palestinians are permanently blinded for approaching the prison fences in Gaza or elsewhere is honestly horrifying.
    - marshmallow_12 6y ago
      i take your point, but they're not prison fences. Lets be clear about that.
    - pessimizer 6y ago
      But is not improved by shooting Palestinians who approach the prison fences in Gaza.
      - skinkestek 6y ago
        Remember: the border used to be more open and I guess it will be in the future as soon as attacks decrease.
      - Rule35 6y ago
        If those are prison fences then why don't Jordan and Egypt cut them along their borders and let the Palestinians out?
    - foota 6y ago
      I think it needs to be considered why the Geneva convention was held, because it was now possible to kill or injure in ways never thought possible before. I don't think they've stood the test of time though, if things like drone strikes and AI weaponry are allowed. I would rather combatants be blinded than gunned down by a terminator. Istm like prohibition of violence against non combatants is orthogonal to the means.
the8472 6y ago
> Article 1 of the 1995 Protocol IV to the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons provides: > It is prohibited to employ laser weapons specifically designed, as their sole combat function or as one of their combat functions, to cause permanent blindness to unenhanced vision, that is to the naked eye or to the eye with corrective eyesight devices.

A more humane version may be to set up turrets with auto-aim lasers that can instantly blind targets rather than outright kill them.

by xwdv 6y ago

A more humane version may be to set up turrets with auto-aim lasers that can instantly blind targets rather than outright kill them.

ceejayoz 6y ago

That'd be an explicit war crime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_Certain_Conventional_Weapons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_Certain_Conventi... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_on_Blinding_Laser_Weapons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_on_Blinding_Laser_Wea...

foota 6y ago
Right, better shoot them instead. Maybe we just need a new convention on AI weaponry.
- badRNG 6y ago
  You can use this line of thinking to justify any war crime that doesn't involve killing the adversary. "Well, we could've just killed them, better we dragged them to a black site to be tortured instead." A scenario where Palestinians are permanently blinded for approaching the prison fences in Gaza or elsewhere is honestly horrifying.
  - marshmallow_12 6y ago
    i take your point, but they're not prison fences. Lets be clear about that.
  - pessimizer 6y ago
    But is not improved by shooting Palestinians who approach the prison fences in Gaza.
    - skinkestek 6y ago
      Remember: the border used to be more open and I guess it will be in the future as soon as attacks decrease.
    - Rule35 6y ago
      If those are prison fences then why don't Jordan and Egypt cut them along their borders and let the Palestinians out?
  - foota 6y ago
    I think it needs to be considered why the Geneva convention was held, because it was now possible to kill or injure in ways never thought possible before. I don't think they've stood the test of time though, if things like drone strikes and AI weaponry are allowed. I would rather combatants be blinded than gunned down by a terminator. Istm like prohibition of violence against non combatants is orthogonal to the means.

the8472 6y ago

> Article 1 of the 1995 Protocol IV to the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons provides: > It is prohibited to employ laser weapons specifically designed, as their sole combat function or as one of their combat functions, to cause permanent blindness to unenhanced vision, that is to the naked eye or to the eye with corrective eyesight devices.