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I have been vegan for 6 months now and have seen remarkable health improvements, all verified by lab testing. It has been very amusing having long discussions

by o0 6y ago

I have been vegan for 6 months now and have seen remarkable health improvements, all verified by lab testing. It has been very amusing having long discussions with my cardiologist trying to explain to him the changes I did as he could not believe the data he was getting.

david-gpu 6y ago
Are you consuming largely unprocessed foods with adequate fiber now? Were you in the past?
isitdopamine 6y ago
That’s very good, I am glad your health improved. However 1) correlation does not mean causation, less so with one data point 2) people who radically change their diet often do some other lifestyle change out of the same concerns. For instance is not uncommon to switch diet and start exercising at the same time, or switching to a more regalar sleep schedule. Did you?
- o0 6y ago
  Yes, of course the correlation/causation issue is true as always. I am sorry if I gave the impression of presenting a study or meta analysis. Not sure I understand what I did wrong (English is my second language), it was meant to be perceived as an anecdote. I think any change you make will feed into changing other things about you. In my case I changed only diet. This in turn changed me so that I could move more. Both of those things changed how I sleep. Which again feeds back into new changes about my mood and goals. I do not think I could have started with one of the other changes and end up here. Especially in my own circumstance.
  - isitdopamine 6y ago
    I don’t think you did anything wrong, sorry if my comment came out as a bit aggressive.
hirundo 6y ago
Yesterday marked six months that I have been > 99% carnivore. My labs also are greatly improved including putting my diabetes into remission, with blood glucose beneath prediabetic levels. Perhaps our common benefits are as much from the foods that we no longer eat as from those we do eat. I was raw vegan for six months a decade ago. I bounced off of that with health problems including brain fog at that point. At the moment carnivory feels more sustainable to me. Possibly the "raw" part is a difference between our experiences.
- o0 6y ago
  Great to hear you are healthier. Yes I would bet just being deliberate and having a philosophy will have an impact. Doing labwork regularly is a good tool. There are so many things that can be monitored that gives you data to supplement your self-reported feelings. (being raw vegan can not have been fun)
  - hirundo 6y ago
    > (being raw vegan can not have been fun) I wonder why you say that. I enjoyed the food a lot, as well as the shopping and prep. I was surrounded by a large supportive raw vegan community, and it may have been one of the most social times of my life. It was literally fun and I would have continued if not for the health issues. And yes, some cravings. It was culturally easy for me in a way that carnivory isn't, yet here I am.
    - o0 6y ago
      I did not mean to imply it was anything wrong with being raw vegan. It is just not my preference. I live in a cold climate and so I enjoy having hot meals. That brain fog issue sounds like you were missing something, did you test yourself? I am sure if you miss your old diet you can still do it with some additions. As mentioned in the article B12 is important.

by o0 6y ago

david-gpu 6y ago

Are you consuming largely unprocessed foods with adequate fiber now? Were you in the past?

isitdopamine 6y ago

That’s very good, I am glad your health improved. However 1) correlation does not mean causation, less so with one data point 2) people who radically change their diet often do some other lifestyle change out of the same concerns. For instance is not uncommon to switch diet and start exercising at the same time, or switching to a more regalar sleep schedule. Did you?

o0 6y ago
Yes, of course the correlation/causation issue is true as always. I am sorry if I gave the impression of presenting a study or meta analysis. Not sure I understand what I did wrong (English is my second language), it was meant to be perceived as an anecdote. I think any change you make will feed into changing other things about you. In my case I changed only diet. This in turn changed me so that I could move more. Both of those things changed how I sleep. Which again feeds back into new changes about my mood and goals. I do not think I could have started with one of the other changes and end up here. Especially in my own circumstance.
- isitdopamine 6y ago
  I don’t think you did anything wrong, sorry if my comment came out as a bit aggressive.

hirundo 6y ago

Yesterday marked six months that I have been > 99% carnivore. My labs also are greatly improved including putting my diabetes into remission, with blood glucose beneath prediabetic levels. Perhaps our common benefits are as much from the foods that we no longer eat as from those we do eat. I was raw vegan for six months a decade ago. I bounced off of that with health problems including brain fog at that point. At the moment carnivory feels more sustainable to me. Possibly the "raw" part is a difference between our experiences.

o0 6y ago
Great to hear you are healthier. Yes I would bet just being deliberate and having a philosophy will have an impact. Doing labwork regularly is a good tool. There are so many things that can be monitored that gives you data to supplement your self-reported feelings. (being raw vegan can not have been fun)
- hirundo 6y ago
  > (being raw vegan can not have been fun) I wonder why you say that. I enjoyed the food a lot, as well as the shopping and prep. I was surrounded by a large supportive raw vegan community, and it may have been one of the most social times of my life. It was literally fun and I would have continued if not for the health issues. And yes, some cravings. It was culturally easy for me in a way that carnivory isn't, yet here I am.
  - o0 6y ago
    I did not mean to imply it was anything wrong with being raw vegan. It is just not my preference. I live in a cold climate and so I enjoy having hot meals. That brain fog issue sounds like you were missing something, did you test yourself? I am sure if you miss your old diet you can still do it with some additions. As mentioned in the article B12 is important.