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This begs the question, has Intel taken now over project ownership?

by FlyMoreRockets 6y ago

yjftsjthsd-h 6y ago
Not in a way that matters for the public/foss version
- FlyMoreRockets 6y ago
  With no commits since 2018, it seems the public/FOSS version has effectively died.
someperson 6y ago
As someone else mentioned here, MINIX is BSD-licensed rather than using a copyleft license like GPL. Intel is not required to share the source code (and they don't). If MINIX as a publicly developed project does die then it's a data point for copyleft licensing being more robust.
- trasz 6y ago
  If it was licensed as copyleft it probably wouldn’t get used by Intel in the first place.
  - someperson 6y ago
    But now they're stuck with an out-of-date OS that's never getting any security updates. Ever. And it's exposed on the network because its used in Intel Management Engine. Meanwhile the Linux kernel is going strong with many companies helping maintain it. Seems like a shortsighted decision on Intel's part.
    - tyingq 6y ago
      The ME is 32 bit x86. Linux support there is pretty weak these days. I don't know that Intel has a lot of good choices.
      - someperson 6y ago
        Is Linux kernel support for i386 really that weak? I know they've dropped 486 a few years ago and Debian dropped 586 (but the Linux kernel hasn't) and 686 is definitely still widely used. Linux only drops support when nobody uses the architecture anymore. And if Intel is using it for ME then there's a big case to be made for keeping it.
        tyingq 6y ago
        One example: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-32-Bit-KPTI-Bug-Fix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-32...
        someperson 6y ago
        Just a correction after some quick Googling: Linux dropped 386 in 2012, but 486 is still supported as best I can tell.
    - skrebbel 6y ago
      That's like saying Apple got stuck with an out of date browser because KHTML development slowed.
      - happycube 6y ago
        Who would have thought in ~2002 that KHTML/Konqueror would, in a background/seeding sense, literally do just that...

This begs the question, has Intel taken now over project ownership?

yjftsjthsd-h 6y ago

Not in a way that matters for the public/foss version

FlyMoreRockets 6y ago
With no commits since 2018, it seems the public/FOSS version has effectively died.

someperson 6y ago

As someone else mentioned here, MINIX is BSD-licensed rather than using a copyleft license like GPL. Intel is not required to share the source code (and they don't). If MINIX as a publicly developed project does die then it's a data point for copyleft licensing being more robust.

trasz 6y ago
If it was licensed as copyleft it probably wouldn’t get used by Intel in the first place.
- someperson 6y ago
  But now they're stuck with an out-of-date OS that's never getting any security updates. Ever. And it's exposed on the network because its used in Intel Management Engine. Meanwhile the Linux kernel is going strong with many companies helping maintain it. Seems like a shortsighted decision on Intel's part.
  - tyingq 6y ago
    The ME is 32 bit x86. Linux support there is pretty weak these days. I don't know that Intel has a lot of good choices.
    - someperson 6y ago
      Is Linux kernel support for i386 really that weak? I know they've dropped 486 a few years ago and Debian dropped 586 (but the Linux kernel hasn't) and 686 is definitely still widely used. Linux only drops support when nobody uses the architecture anymore. And if Intel is using it for ME then there's a big case to be made for keeping it.
      - tyingq 6y ago
        One example: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-32-Bit-KPTI-Bug-Fix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-32...
      - someperson 6y ago
        Just a correction after some quick Googling: Linux dropped 386 in 2012, but 486 is still supported as best I can tell.
  - skrebbel 6y ago
    That's like saying Apple got stuck with an out of date browser because KHTML development slowed.
    - happycube 6y ago
      Who would have thought in ~2002 that KHTML/Konqueror would, in a background/seeding sense, literally do just that...