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I actually seriously foresee a split occurring in the Linux community that will also affect users of other Unix-like operating systems. On one side you have mo
by linguae 6y ago
I actually seriously foresee a split occurring in the Linux community that will also affect users of other Unix-like operating systems. On one side you have modern Linux software projects like systemd and Wayland. These projects address deficiencies in traditional solutions, but certain design choices in these projects have not been well-received by more traditional users of Linux and the BSDs.
The increase in the amount of user-level software that depends on systemd and Wayland is a forcing factor. For example, my understanding is that official distributions of GNOME depend on systemd, and many Linux desktops are being actively developed for Wayland (though I don't think any major desktop environment or toolkit has abandoned X11). I expect this trend to continue, given that systemd is part of the most popular Linux distributions, Wayland will be default in Ubuntu (https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-21.04-Wayland-Default https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-2...), and GNOME runs on Wayland (with KDE's port to Wayland being actively developed: see https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=KDE-2021-Roadmap https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=KDE-2021...).
So, yes, I do see a split occurring between "modern Linux" (with systemd and Wayland) and "traditional Linux," with the BSDs fitting in closer to the "traditional Linux" camp.
- blueflow 6y agoThe split has already happened - Void and Alpine Linux seem to be on the traditional Linux side, everything with the musl libc in general.
- VLM 6y agoIts the death of the meme of the "universal OS". There will be Linux for desktops to run a web browser (aka poorly emulate a chromebook) and for docker and docker only. If you want a non-containerized server or some kind of non-desktop embedded thingy, or anything that can be computed other than emulating a chromebook and doing containers, you'll have to run FreeBSD or some other OS. The days of "just install Debian to do anything anywhere" are gone, which is sad, because there's really no technical reason or need for the destruction.
- zokier 6y ago> The days of "just install Debian to do anything anywhere" are gone, which is sad, because there's really no technical reason or need for the destruction. What are you missing from Debian these days that was there 5/10/20 years ago? What has been "destroyed"?
- blueflow 6y agoFree disk space
- anthk 6y agoGnome works without systemd under OpenBSD.