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Everyone has some character flaws, some gaffes, some negative anecdotes. Focusing on those and calling him a “twat” is just a ridiculous characterization when y

Everyone has some character flaws, some gaffes, some negative anecdotes. Focusing on those and calling him a “twat” is just a ridiculous characterization when you consider what’s he’s achieved and how positive those achievements are for the world. So yes it remains mysterious why there are so many people ready to show their hate for him. And the only feasible explanations are envy or political/ideological motivation.

sect2k 6y ago
Which positive achievements are we talking about exactly?
- xedeon 6y ago
  Just to name a few: Zip2 Corporation SpaceX Tesla Motors SolarCity The Boring Company Hyperloop Open AI Neuralink
  - FireBeyond 6y ago
    What exactly has Hyperloop "achieved"? It offers the same benefit as Maglev with massively inflated costs and far less comfortable passenger experience.
  - sect2k 6y ago
    I didn't ask which companies he has/had a stake in, I'm asking what the supposed positive achievements for humanity are? Don't bother, there really aren't any. Musk is not your real-life Tony Stark, he's a real life Hugo Drax.
    - xedeon 6y ago
      > I'm asking what the supposed positive achievements for humanity are? Don't bother, there really aren't any. Why such contempt? To infer that Starlink, Tesla and SpaceX are not positive achievements for humanity is a bit cretinous. More importantly. What positive achievements have you done? The likely answer is that Musk or any founder which company is publicly traded (not including social media ones for obv reasons) are a net positive for the world compared to you. I find it fascinating how people watching from the sidelines love to dunk on entrepreneurs. They also seem to be always angry at the world. The quote "Comparison is the thief of joy" by FDR has never ringed more true.
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6gvONxR4sf7o 6y ago
Everyone has character flaws. Not everyone has musk level character flaws. People who think he’s a dick (people like me) are louder about it that about other things in reaction to people who want to overlook those flaws and worship the guy as Mars Jesus. If you think the only motivations are envy/political/ideological, you are just underestimating the number of people who don’t think like you.
kergonath 6y ago
His companies do not change his character, though. For example, one can acknowledge the usefulness of Amazon and still think Bezos is a creep. Musk is a born-rich libertarian with an insecure, massive ego and too clever for his own good. His stupid behaviour on Twitter and in person is well documented. The fact that he established a cult of personality does not change this, either.

sect2k 6y ago

Which positive achievements are we talking about exactly?

xedeon 6y ago
Just to name a few: Zip2 Corporation SpaceX Tesla Motors SolarCity The Boring Company Hyperloop Open AI Neuralink
- FireBeyond 6y ago
  What exactly has Hyperloop "achieved"? It offers the same benefit as Maglev with massively inflated costs and far less comfortable passenger experience.
- sect2k 6y ago
  I didn't ask which companies he has/had a stake in, I'm asking what the supposed positive achievements for humanity are? Don't bother, there really aren't any. Musk is not your real-life Tony Stark, he's a real life Hugo Drax.
  - xedeon 6y ago
    > I'm asking what the supposed positive achievements for humanity are? Don't bother, there really aren't any. Why such contempt? To infer that Starlink, Tesla and SpaceX are not positive achievements for humanity is a bit cretinous. More importantly. What positive achievements have you done? The likely answer is that Musk or any founder which company is publicly traded (not including social media ones for obv reasons) are a net positive for the world compared to you. I find it fascinating how people watching from the sidelines love to dunk on entrepreneurs. They also seem to be always angry at the world. The quote "Comparison is the thief of joy" by FDR has never ringed more true.
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6gvONxR4sf7o 6y ago

Everyone has character flaws. Not everyone has musk level character flaws. People who think he’s a dick (people like me) are louder about it that about other things in reaction to people who want to overlook those flaws and worship the guy as Mars Jesus. If you think the only motivations are envy/political/ideological, you are just underestimating the number of people who don’t think like you.

kergonath 6y ago

His companies do not change his character, though. For example, one can acknowledge the usefulness of Amazon and still think Bezos is a creep. Musk is a born-rich libertarian with an insecure, massive ego and too clever for his own good. His stupid behaviour on Twitter and in person is well documented. The fact that he established a cult of personality does not change this, either.