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The biggest blocker for me is still multiplayer games with anticheat that doesn't officially support Linux (try it unofficially and expect to get banned).

by Kudos 6y ago

ekianjo 6y ago
Yeah, there's always that risk. I wonder how Valve expects to tackle that down the road.
- smoldesu 6y ago
  It's going to be a very long road, but Valve has definitely been working on it. Through a combination of Kernel patches and WINE magick, they seem to have something cooking up. It's anyone's guess as to how effective (or accepted) it will be.
  - pja 6y ago
    EAC supports Linux right now, but games publishers have to choose to turn on that particular feature.
    - smoldesu 6y ago
      When you say "supports Linux", do you mean that it has a native version for Linux titles, or are you saying that it has an option to not flag Proton/Wine users?
    - dogma1138 6y ago
      For EAC to work on Linux you need a native client, I’m guessing the next thing valve should work on is some proton compatibility layer that could link the Linux client with the emulated game.
      - ekianjo 6y ago
        Actually, they (Codeweavers) are actually working on redesigning WINE to make it possible to support Windows-EAC.
        Google234 6y ago
        Do people know how EAC works? It’s looking inside the windows kernel loooking in the areas not well covered by patch guard to see if I trusted code is running. Providing it false data to look through in Wine defeats its purpose.
        Rhedox 6y ago
        That was a one man project and never really went anywhere.
    - marcodiego 6y ago
      Googling "EAC supports linux" does not returns anything useful on first results. Would you mind to share your source?
      - ekianjo 6y ago
        https://twitter.com/timsweeneyepic/status/1150536446807334914?lang=en https://twitter.com/timsweeneyepic/status/115053644680733491... from the mouth of Sauron itself: > Tim Sweeney @TimSweeneyEpic > Jul 15, 2019 > EAC has native Linux binaries in beta, supporting several native games in active release. This missing link is native Linux anti-cheat integration with Wine/Proton so that games running under Wine are protected. This is in the works but is a big task.
        Google234 6y ago
        Is it even possible to verify and trust the code running in the Linux kernel? If not then it’s a hopeless endeavor.
    - stryan 6y ago
      They do have a Wine-version of their anti-cheat (or at least they did in the past). SMITE used to use it, but stopped for some reason.
- mhh__ 6y ago
  Valve have a big stick if they want to make companies support multiplayer from Proton.
  - dEnigma 6y ago
    But that stick sure has gotten quite a bit smaller ever since the Epic Store launched.
    - fayten 6y ago
      Maybe, but steam beat its record of most users two months in a row. February 8th had 26.4 million concurrent users. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/esports/steam-twice-breaks-record-with-264-million-concurrent-users/ar-BB1dw9db https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/esports/steam-twice-breaks-...
Tanath 6y ago
Such bans are rare, and usually get reversed if it was only triggered due to Linux.
- dogma1138 6y ago
  The issue isn’t as much as bans but that the online multiplayer service won’t let you log in or that servers will auto kick anyone who fail the AC health check when they join.

The biggest blocker for me is still multiplayer games with anticheat that doesn't officially support Linux (try it unofficially and expect to get banned).

by Kudos 6y ago

The biggest blocker for me is still multiplayer games with anticheat that doesn't officially support Linux (try it unofficially and expect to get banned).

ekianjo 6y ago

Yeah, there's always that risk. I wonder how Valve expects to tackle that down the road.

smoldesu 6y ago
It's going to be a very long road, but Valve has definitely been working on it. Through a combination of Kernel patches and WINE magick, they seem to have something cooking up. It's anyone's guess as to how effective (or accepted) it will be.
- pja 6y ago
  EAC supports Linux right now, but games publishers have to choose to turn on that particular feature.
  - smoldesu 6y ago
    When you say "supports Linux", do you mean that it has a native version for Linux titles, or are you saying that it has an option to not flag Proton/Wine users?
  - dogma1138 6y ago
    For EAC to work on Linux you need a native client, I’m guessing the next thing valve should work on is some proton compatibility layer that could link the Linux client with the emulated game.
    - ekianjo 6y ago
      Actually, they (Codeweavers) are actually working on redesigning WINE to make it possible to support Windows-EAC.
      - Google234 6y ago
        Do people know how EAC works? It’s looking inside the windows kernel loooking in the areas not well covered by patch guard to see if I trusted code is running. Providing it false data to look through in Wine defeats its purpose.
      - Rhedox 6y ago
        That was a one man project and never really went anywhere.
  - marcodiego 6y ago
    Googling "EAC supports linux" does not returns anything useful on first results. Would you mind to share your source?
    - ekianjo 6y ago
      https://twitter.com/timsweeneyepic/status/1150536446807334914?lang=en https://twitter.com/timsweeneyepic/status/115053644680733491... from the mouth of Sauron itself: > Tim Sweeney @TimSweeneyEpic > Jul 15, 2019 > EAC has native Linux binaries in beta, supporting several native games in active release. This missing link is native Linux anti-cheat integration with Wine/Proton so that games running under Wine are protected. This is in the works but is a big task.
      - Google234 6y ago
        Is it even possible to verify and trust the code running in the Linux kernel? If not then it’s a hopeless endeavor.
  - stryan 6y ago
    They do have a Wine-version of their anti-cheat (or at least they did in the past). SMITE used to use it, but stopped for some reason.
mhh__ 6y ago
Valve have a big stick if they want to make companies support multiplayer from Proton.
- dEnigma 6y ago
  But that stick sure has gotten quite a bit smaller ever since the Epic Store launched.
  - fayten 6y ago
    Maybe, but steam beat its record of most users two months in a row. February 8th had 26.4 million concurrent users. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/esports/steam-twice-breaks-record-with-264-million-concurrent-users/ar-BB1dw9db https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/esports/steam-twice-breaks-...

Tanath 6y ago

Such bans are rare, and usually get reversed if it was only triggered due to Linux.

dogma1138 6y ago
The issue isn’t as much as bans but that the online multiplayer service won’t let you log in or that servers will auto kick anyone who fail the AC health check when they join.