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You must have missed the entire 90s. Microsoft hasn't changed, it's just got better PR. Google has it's faults as well, but I vastly prefer Google's contributi

You must have missed the entire 90s. Microsoft hasn't changed, it's just got better PR. Google has it's faults as well, but I vastly prefer Google's contribution over Microsoft's.

supernovae 6y ago
The 90s was 30 years ago. I was an asshole to my parents in the 90s as an angsty teen. If my parents held on to the 90s like I could never change, grow or be something different my family would be torn apart. Perhaps you just need to grow up yourself.
- dontblink 6y ago
  Sounds like you're still pretty angsty
- michaelmrose 6y ago
  The Microsoft of the 1990s was a crew of unethical adults led by unethical adults who systematically committed unethical acts. The Microsoft of the 2020s is composed of employees that while obviously not fully contiguous with the crew of the 20 not 30 years ago was replaced piece by piece by people that were trained by said unethical people or trained by the people who were in turned trained by same. Companies have a character and a culture that is retained which is why we often speak of them as contiguous entities because like the ship of theseus is an referant to a entity with a certain history and characteristics so to is a company. An ill chosen analogy merely doesn't highlight the characteristics that are alike. Yours seems to be chosen to deliberately highlight irrelevant characteristics in order to misdirect. I suggest you stick to talking about the facts.
  - skinnymuch 6y ago
    When does it end? The next generation in 20 years will be taught by the current ones who have the negative teachings of their prior. It will never end.
    - michaelmrose 6y ago
      It doesn't need to end. I could point out organizations that have retained substantial elements of their nature over hundreds and thousands of years even while undergoing substantial evolution in many ways.
  - supernovae 6y ago
    This assumes that anything can be perfect and it precludes anyone from having the humility to grow up. It's unhealthy. I suggest you realize that "facts" (behaviors) are contextual and like people, companies change.
FridgeSeal 6y ago
I am in no way absolving Microsoft for their terrible behaviour in the 90s. I do however, think that google, having more reach and influence makes them somewhat worse.

You must have missed the entire 90s. Microsoft hasn't changed, it's just got better PR. Google has it's faults as well, but I vastly prefer Google's contribution over Microsoft's.

supernovae 6y ago

The 90s was 30 years ago. I was an asshole to my parents in the 90s as an angsty teen. If my parents held on to the 90s like I could never change, grow or be something different my family would be torn apart. Perhaps you just need to grow up yourself.

dontblink 6y ago
Sounds like you're still pretty angsty
michaelmrose 6y ago
The Microsoft of the 1990s was a crew of unethical adults led by unethical adults who systematically committed unethical acts. The Microsoft of the 2020s is composed of employees that while obviously not fully contiguous with the crew of the 20 not 30 years ago was replaced piece by piece by people that were trained by said unethical people or trained by the people who were in turned trained by same. Companies have a character and a culture that is retained which is why we often speak of them as contiguous entities because like the ship of theseus is an referant to a entity with a certain history and characteristics so to is a company. An ill chosen analogy merely doesn't highlight the characteristics that are alike. Yours seems to be chosen to deliberately highlight irrelevant characteristics in order to misdirect. I suggest you stick to talking about the facts.
- skinnymuch 6y ago
  When does it end? The next generation in 20 years will be taught by the current ones who have the negative teachings of their prior. It will never end.
  - michaelmrose 6y ago
    It doesn't need to end. I could point out organizations that have retained substantial elements of their nature over hundreds and thousands of years even while undergoing substantial evolution in many ways.
- supernovae 6y ago
  This assumes that anything can be perfect and it precludes anyone from having the humility to grow up. It's unhealthy. I suggest you realize that "facts" (behaviors) are contextual and like people, companies change.

FridgeSeal 6y ago

I am in no way absolving Microsoft for their terrible behaviour in the 90s. I do however, think that google, having more reach and influence makes them somewhat worse.