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Public outcries have underlying causes. Justified or not. Separating the outcry from the reason for it isn't an accurate model. What you call cancel culture is

Public outcries have underlying causes. Justified or not. Separating the outcry from the reason for it isn't an accurate model. What you call cancel culture isn't limited to 1 political group. You haven't provided any evidence of ordinary people being terminated because of organize harassment campaigns. And you keep equating self censorship to cancellation. Calling for someone to resign or be fired isn't harassment.

throwaway894345 6y ago
> Public outcries have underlying causes. Justified or not. Separating the outcry from the reason for it isn't an accurate model. In the Neff question there is no outcry in the first place. The question posits that Neff was fired by his employer as a result of CNN's revelation. That's the whole point; the question reads like "Do you think Neff should have been terminated for his conduct?", not "Do you think Neff should have been terminated due to public pressure?". The former isn't cancel culture, the latter is. > What you call cancel culture isn't limited to 1 political group. No, it's not. Conservatives cancelled the Dixie Chicks circa 2003 and Kaepernick just a few years ago. I'm not aware of any cancellations of ordinary people, though I wouldn't be surprised if there were a handful. > You haven't provided any evidence of ordinary people being terminated because of organize harassment campaigns. And you keep equating self censorship to cancellation. David Shor and Emmanuel Cafferty spring to mind. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/stop-firing-innocent/613615/ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/stop-firin... https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/sdge-worker-fired-over-alleged-racist-gesture-says-he-was-cracking-knuckles/2347414/ https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/sdge-worker-fired-ove... > Calling for someone to resign or be fired isn't harassment. Harassment: aggressive pressure or intimidation. Call it what you want, but a rose by any other name...

throwaway894345 6y ago

> Public outcries have underlying causes. Justified or not. Separating the outcry from the reason for it isn't an accurate model. In the Neff question there is no outcry in the first place. The question posits that Neff was fired by his employer as a result of CNN's revelation. That's the whole point; the question reads like "Do you think Neff should have been terminated for his conduct?", not "Do you think Neff should have been terminated due to public pressure?". The former isn't cancel culture, the latter is. > What you call cancel culture isn't limited to 1 political group. No, it's not. Conservatives cancelled the Dixie Chicks circa 2003 and Kaepernick just a few years ago. I'm not aware of any cancellations of ordinary people, though I wouldn't be surprised if there were a handful. > You haven't provided any evidence of ordinary people being terminated because of organize harassment campaigns. And you keep equating self censorship to cancellation. David Shor and Emmanuel Cafferty spring to mind. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/stop-firing-innocent/613615/ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/stop-firin... https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/sdge-worker-fired-over-alleged-racist-gesture-says-he-was-cracking-knuckles/2347414/ https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/sdge-worker-fired-ove... > Calling for someone to resign or be fired isn't harassment. Harassment: aggressive pressure or intimidation. Call it what you want, but a rose by any other name...