> I am going to reiterate: There is a whole lot of time _before_ your first customer. So what? Don't you understand that this just renders your point even less

> I am going to reiterate: There is a whole lot of time _before_ your first customer. So what? Don't you understand that this just renders your point even less defendable? > But this was _with_ customers. So what? Do you expect to get your code to work only in prod? Do you hope that all the bugs you're adding right now should just pile up into a big tangled and unmanageable mess until it becomes a problem? Are you even bothered by the fact that your last commit may or may not have screwed the entire project? There is absolutely zero justification to not automate testing and delivery. Zero. There is not a single usecases where pushing half-baked crashers without any verification should be ok.