> It's just ugly and looks like design by committee. I don't think it's ugly because it's design-by-committee, I think they intentionally made it ugly so that

> It's just ugly and looks like design by committee. I don't think it's ugly because it's design-by-committee, I think they intentionally made it ugly so that it's familiar to C++ people. > I also wonder why corporations are pushing Rust. You said it yourself: undisciplined people can't write C without introducing memory-related bugs, and it's much easier to hire undisciplined people than disciplined people. > It is an entirely different story if a project is started with sanitizers, Valgrind and best practices. Do you have an example of a project that is (a) built in such a way, (b) large, and (c) has a good track record on memory safety?