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I'm not sure why you believe that this is something which is done upon them. A company the size of Amazon most likely has a significant LGBT community and the l

I'm not sure why you believe that this is something which is done upon them. A company the size of Amazon most likely has a significant LGBT community and the liberal leanings of the majority of people who have a higher level of education (presumably the majority of people in decision making positions) takes care of the rest.

inglor_cz 6y ago
I do not really see the connection between having a lot of LGBT employees and this decision. Not every gay person is obliged to have the same opinion on teenage gender dysphoria, whether it is wise to transition someone who is not old enough to drive a car responsibly and whether it is wise to banish books from a bookstore, let alone how the ideal blacklist should look like. This kind of topics tends to be discussed by tiny, though passionate minorities. I would expect Amazon to have some TERFs, too.
- tesseractive 6y ago
  Amazon is in Seattle. We are arguably the most trans-accepting city in the US (source: being a trans person living in Seattle). Trans people are mostly just an accepted part of the community here. And people here are generally not super impressed by the "think of the children!" wedge issue any more than they were impressed with the "OMG trans women in bathrooms!" wedge issue. I'm sure TERFs exist here, but they keep it to themselves, because it's not something to admit to in polite company.
- corobo 6y ago
  You know gay is only one of the letters you used?
  - inglor_cz 6y ago
    They are not perfect quarters of the pie, though. There will almost certainly be more gays and lesbians than transsexuals in a random set of thousands of people. Or do you want to say that the rest of the three letters are expected to have uniform opinions on said matters?
    - VBprogrammer 6y ago
      You are punching at a straw man. No one is saying every gay person has the same opinion on this or any other matter. However, as a community (which is the word I used), they do tend to stand together.
    - vertex-four 6y ago
      Indeed, gay people often hate trans people (who, as another comment says, mostly want to get on with our fucking lives) as much as anyone else. What’s your point here? Hatred is cool and normal and Amazon should be promoting it?
    - inglor_cz 6y ago
      My point is that the community sort-of isn't representative of the general gay population. It often consists of a specific subtype of activists that share a lot of political opinions and will gatekeep nonconforming individuals out.
    - corobo 6y ago
      Mate if we're misinterpreting things on purpose are you saying that people only have valid opinions if they're the majority? No I'm not saying that, don't be daft.

inglor_cz 6y ago

I do not really see the connection between having a lot of LGBT employees and this decision. Not every gay person is obliged to have the same opinion on teenage gender dysphoria, whether it is wise to transition someone who is not old enough to drive a car responsibly and whether it is wise to banish books from a bookstore, let alone how the ideal blacklist should look like. This kind of topics tends to be discussed by tiny, though passionate minorities. I would expect Amazon to have some TERFs, too.

tesseractive 6y ago
Amazon is in Seattle. We are arguably the most trans-accepting city in the US (source: being a trans person living in Seattle). Trans people are mostly just an accepted part of the community here. And people here are generally not super impressed by the "think of the children!" wedge issue any more than they were impressed with the "OMG trans women in bathrooms!" wedge issue. I'm sure TERFs exist here, but they keep it to themselves, because it's not something to admit to in polite company.
corobo 6y ago
You know gay is only one of the letters you used?
- inglor_cz 6y ago
  They are not perfect quarters of the pie, though. There will almost certainly be more gays and lesbians than transsexuals in a random set of thousands of people. Or do you want to say that the rest of the three letters are expected to have uniform opinions on said matters?
  - VBprogrammer 6y ago
    You are punching at a straw man. No one is saying every gay person has the same opinion on this or any other matter. However, as a community (which is the word I used), they do tend to stand together.
  - vertex-four 6y ago
    Indeed, gay people often hate trans people (who, as another comment says, mostly want to get on with our fucking lives) as much as anyone else. What’s your point here? Hatred is cool and normal and Amazon should be promoting it?
  - inglor_cz 6y ago
    My point is that the community sort-of isn't representative of the general gay population. It often consists of a specific subtype of activists that share a lot of political opinions and will gatekeep nonconforming individuals out.
  - corobo 6y ago
    Mate if we're misinterpreting things on purpose are you saying that people only have valid opinions if they're the majority? No I'm not saying that, don't be daft.