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> monitor agriculture and fisheries. Lol, are we going to bomb their corn fields next. Exactly how could it be used by the military? I don't know, but I feel

> monitor agriculture and fisheries. Lol, are we going to bomb their corn fields next. Exactly how could it be used by the military? I don't know, but I feel like a satellite worth only $15 million and released from the space station wouldn't do much, but I might be pleasantly surprised tech has advanced enough. I don't get how on such a low orbit if would be useful to one country? I think it's called the MMSATS-1 (Lawkanat-1) https://www.global.hokudai.ac.jp/blog/collaborative-development-of-micro-satellite-by-myanmar-and-japan-started/ https://www.global.hokudai.ac.jp/blog/collaborative-developm...

simonh 6y ago
Cubes at imaging is really decent nowadays, this article shows images of a refugee camp. https://www.ft.com/content/c7e00344-111a-11e8-940e-08320fc2a277 https://www.ft.com/content/c7e00344-111a-11e8-940e-08320fc2a... The concern is probably that satellite images could be used to identify and keep track of Rohingya and other ethnic minority settlements in jungle areas, and target them for attacks like the ones the military have been carrying out since 2017.
- aaron695 6y ago
  I think it's a stretch the possible cameras are good enough to use by the military. Here's photo's from Diwata-1 and Diwata-2 which is the same Japanese team and the Philippians. Similar costs, same project. https://www.goodnewspilipinas.com/diwata-1-2-view-from-space-photos-of-philippines-9-countries-released-to-mark-earth-day/ https://www.goodnewspilipinas.com/diwata-1-2-view-from-space... Diwata-1/Diwata-2 have a High Precision Telescope (HPT) which I see no mention of on the MMSATS-1, only a super multi-color imager (SMI). But I can't see the exact specs. If you can find a photo of the underside of the MMSATS-1 you could see if it has a HTP by comparing it to this - https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/pag-filter/-/article/diwata-1 https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missio...
  - simonh 6y ago
    One of the express purposes of the satellite is to track agricultural activity, which by definition means it must be able to identify remote agricultural communities through e.g. forest clearance. That could be used to target ethnic minority settlements.
    - aaron695 6y ago
      They have Google Maps. And normal paper maps. The Rohingya aren't some primitive natives who walk around a forest naked. Here's a (commercial grade) satellite of a before and after of one of the settlements being burned https://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-rohingya-insight-idUSKBN262058 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-rohingya-insight-... The rate of photos of the MMSATS-1 is low (if it has a HPT, I've seen no confirmation of this), and you can see from the photos you can't see a car. You can see the boats. If you want to look at the example of Diwata 1 leading to the detection of a disease in bananas, it's seems PR. Landsat-8 seems to play the greater role - https://confit.atlas.jp/guide/event-img/jpguagu2017/HTT21-05/public/pdf?type=in https://confit.atlas.jp/guide/event-img/jpguagu2017/HTT21-05...
      - simonh 6y ago
        If Google maps and paper maps are good enough to track agriculture patters, why do they need a satellite at all? For a start Google maps images typically only update every 2 to 3 years. You’re making no sense.
        aaron695 6y ago
        If your not going to read the links nothing more I can do. How is MMSATS-1 going to magically give you better than "Google maps images typically only update every 2 to 3 years" ? What orbit do you think MMSATS-1 would be in? You have yet to show it has a HPT. Can you link with the specs? > to track agriculture patters I've given you a link showing it can't. You seem like you just don't want Burma to have satellites. That's fine, but just say it. It's just a shitty cube sat to give it's youth something to be proud of and to train it's current scientists. The end plan is to have many of them in the consortium to help the region. Obviously this one will fall out of orbit before then, it's just a step. It's up to you but I suggest you go on a holiday to Thailand for a few weeks, it's easy for tourists, cheap and it's a culture change. Next holiday spend a few weeks in Myanmar. I don't think you have to know a culture personally to be a Hawk on them, but why not. If nothing else it makes you a better Hawk.

simonh 6y ago

Cubes at imaging is really decent nowadays, this article shows images of a refugee camp. https://www.ft.com/content/c7e00344-111a-11e8-940e-08320fc2a277 https://www.ft.com/content/c7e00344-111a-11e8-940e-08320fc2a... The concern is probably that satellite images could be used to identify and keep track of Rohingya and other ethnic minority settlements in jungle areas, and target them for attacks like the ones the military have been carrying out since 2017.

aaron695 6y ago
I think it's a stretch the possible cameras are good enough to use by the military. Here's photo's from Diwata-1 and Diwata-2 which is the same Japanese team and the Philippians. Similar costs, same project. https://www.goodnewspilipinas.com/diwata-1-2-view-from-space-photos-of-philippines-9-countries-released-to-mark-earth-day/ https://www.goodnewspilipinas.com/diwata-1-2-view-from-space... Diwata-1/Diwata-2 have a High Precision Telescope (HPT) which I see no mention of on the MMSATS-1, only a super multi-color imager (SMI). But I can't see the exact specs. If you can find a photo of the underside of the MMSATS-1 you could see if it has a HTP by comparing it to this - https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/pag-filter/-/article/diwata-1 https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missio...
- simonh 6y ago
  One of the express purposes of the satellite is to track agricultural activity, which by definition means it must be able to identify remote agricultural communities through e.g. forest clearance. That could be used to target ethnic minority settlements.
  - aaron695 6y ago
    They have Google Maps. And normal paper maps. The Rohingya aren't some primitive natives who walk around a forest naked. Here's a (commercial grade) satellite of a before and after of one of the settlements being burned https://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-rohingya-insight-idUSKBN262058 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-rohingya-insight-... The rate of photos of the MMSATS-1 is low (if it has a HPT, I've seen no confirmation of this), and you can see from the photos you can't see a car. You can see the boats. If you want to look at the example of Diwata 1 leading to the detection of a disease in bananas, it's seems PR. Landsat-8 seems to play the greater role - https://confit.atlas.jp/guide/event-img/jpguagu2017/HTT21-05/public/pdf?type=in https://confit.atlas.jp/guide/event-img/jpguagu2017/HTT21-05...
    - simonh 6y ago
      If Google maps and paper maps are good enough to track agriculture patters, why do they need a satellite at all? For a start Google maps images typically only update every 2 to 3 years. You’re making no sense.
      - aaron695 6y ago
        If your not going to read the links nothing more I can do. How is MMSATS-1 going to magically give you better than "Google maps images typically only update every 2 to 3 years" ? What orbit do you think MMSATS-1 would be in? You have yet to show it has a HPT. Can you link with the specs? > to track agriculture patters I've given you a link showing it can't. You seem like you just don't want Burma to have satellites. That's fine, but just say it. It's just a shitty cube sat to give it's youth something to be proud of and to train it's current scientists. The end plan is to have many of them in the consortium to help the region. Obviously this one will fall out of orbit before then, it's just a step. It's up to you but I suggest you go on a holiday to Thailand for a few weeks, it's easy for tourists, cheap and it's a culture change. Next holiday spend a few weeks in Myanmar. I don't think you have to know a culture personally to be a Hawk on them, but why not. If nothing else it makes you a better Hawk.