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and from my understanding, the military's unilateral action is also in line with their constitution, at least according to the military. so where does that lea

and from my understanding, the military's unilateral action is also in line with their constitution, at least according to the military. so where does that leave us to form an opinion and activism about it? just because we have a democracy-boner doesn't mean we can ignore a country's constitution, even if it is flawed, does it? and if our democracy fervor is really so strong for us to actually do something about it, then its hypocritical because we don't do anything meaningful about it in country's that are more relevant, and it makes us picking on the little country.

notsureaboutpg 6y ago
I think there could at least be some geopolitical reprecussions. The US is so willing to proscribe various Iranian government officials as terrorists and to sanction Iran so far as to deny them medicine and food from other countries, and they have not done anything close to resembling what Myanmar has done (genocide). Democracy doesn't have to be the answer but there should be pressure on the state of Myanmar to change in case of genocide. We don't have to go forcing other countries to accept our values (democracy, socially liberal policies / conservatively fiscal policies, etc.) But we should at least draw the line at genocide.
kyawzazaw 6y ago
It is being argued that was not constitutional You can check this for more info: https://melissacrouch.com/2021/02/07/the-illegality-of-myanmars-coup/ https://melissacrouch.com/2021/02/07/the-illegality-of-myanm... That professor is an expert on the constitution.
- vmception 6y ago
  thanks, is there an authority or arbiter in that country left that people can respect, or does it now require external intervention
  - jessaustin 6y ago
    ...or... It's entirely possible for there to be no such authority in place, without requiring "external intervention". In that case the people who live there might create such an authority, or they might not. Eventually we might realize how all humans are harmed by subjugation to authority.
  - kyawzazaw 6y ago
    can you explain what you mean? There is an elected representatives that have the people's support.
    - vmception 6y ago
      A Supreme Court to clear it up, a court that people respect. A branch of the government thinks its actions are constitutional, the people and the elected representatives don't. Just because we are conditioned to favor outcomes that are more inclusive and democratic, doesn't mean it is the legally compliant option. Just because a scholar and constitutional expert has an argument, doesn't mean it is the only interpretation. So is there a court that can take the arguments from the scholar on behalf of the people, and the arguments from the military, and make a ruling?
      - ecnerwala 6y ago
        "So is there a court that can take the arguments from the scholar on behalf of the people, and the arguments from the military, and make a ruling?" NO. They wouldn't be in the current situation if they had strong functioning independent institutions.
      - kyawzazaw 6y ago
        No. The Supreme Court judges have been replaced by the military. There are no strong independent institutions.

notsureaboutpg 6y ago

I think there could at least be some geopolitical reprecussions. The US is so willing to proscribe various Iranian government officials as terrorists and to sanction Iran so far as to deny them medicine and food from other countries, and they have not done anything close to resembling what Myanmar has done (genocide). Democracy doesn't have to be the answer but there should be pressure on the state of Myanmar to change in case of genocide. We don't have to go forcing other countries to accept our values (democracy, socially liberal policies / conservatively fiscal policies, etc.) But we should at least draw the line at genocide.

kyawzazaw 6y ago

It is being argued that was not constitutional You can check this for more info: https://melissacrouch.com/2021/02/07/the-illegality-of-myanmars-coup/ https://melissacrouch.com/2021/02/07/the-illegality-of-myanm... That professor is an expert on the constitution.

vmception 6y ago
thanks, is there an authority or arbiter in that country left that people can respect, or does it now require external intervention
- jessaustin 6y ago
  ...or... It's entirely possible for there to be no such authority in place, without requiring "external intervention". In that case the people who live there might create such an authority, or they might not. Eventually we might realize how all humans are harmed by subjugation to authority.
- kyawzazaw 6y ago
  can you explain what you mean? There is an elected representatives that have the people's support.
  - vmception 6y ago
    A Supreme Court to clear it up, a court that people respect. A branch of the government thinks its actions are constitutional, the people and the elected representatives don't. Just because we are conditioned to favor outcomes that are more inclusive and democratic, doesn't mean it is the legally compliant option. Just because a scholar and constitutional expert has an argument, doesn't mean it is the only interpretation. So is there a court that can take the arguments from the scholar on behalf of the people, and the arguments from the military, and make a ruling?
    - ecnerwala 6y ago
      "So is there a court that can take the arguments from the scholar on behalf of the people, and the arguments from the military, and make a ruling?" NO. They wouldn't be in the current situation if they had strong functioning independent institutions.
    - kyawzazaw 6y ago
      No. The Supreme Court judges have been replaced by the military. There are no strong independent institutions.