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Concepts like legality have much less meaning between countries. It's not like there is a court where Myanmar can sue if it wants their satellite back. At this

by WJW 6y ago

Concepts like legality have much less meaning between countries. It's not like there is a court where Myanmar can sue if it wants their satellite back. At this level, the ultimate recourse is declaring war and reclaiming it by force but we all know how that would turn out.

TameAntelope 6y ago
Diplomacy is a critical function of any government due to what you're saying, and IMO this could be a consequence of Myanmar neglecting that reality (for a myriad of valid and invalid reasons, I don't know enough about the current situation to speak with any intelligence about it).
celtain 6y ago
Not all international disagreements are disagreements between sovereign nations themselves. It's possible that MAEU could sue JAXA or Hokkaido University in a Japanese court if they think they're violating Japanese law. If that's not the case, or if the Diet passes a new law that protects their countrymen in this dispute, then yeah it becomes the type of conflict you describe.
adinb 6y ago
Isn’t that what the World Trade Organization (WTO) is for?
- freeflight 6y ago
  The WTO has been effectively out of order these past years as the US has blocked the appointment of new judges to the appeals court. It's supposed to have seven judges, a minimum of three judges are required to issue rulings, but since 2019 there are only two judges left [0] So any ruling the WTO main body makes, like for example declaring US tariffs on China illegal [1], only needs to be appealed to be stuck in procedural limbo, which is exactly what ended up happening with the WTO ruling on US tariffs [2] [0] https://www.dw.com/en/wto-judge-blockage-could-prove-the-beginning-of-the-end/a-51613082# https://www.dw.com/en/wto-judge-blockage-could-prove-the-beg... [1] https://apnews.com/article/global-trade-china-archive-donald-trump-58a89252300408e255ed3a9a26004091 https://apnews.com/article/global-trade-china-archive-donald... [2] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-26/u-s-appeals-wto-ruling-that-trump-s-china-tariffs-were-illegal https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-26/u-s-appea...
  - adinb 6y ago
    Thanks!

by WJW 6y ago

TameAntelope 6y ago

Diplomacy is a critical function of any government due to what you're saying, and IMO this could be a consequence of Myanmar neglecting that reality (for a myriad of valid and invalid reasons, I don't know enough about the current situation to speak with any intelligence about it).

celtain 6y ago

Not all international disagreements are disagreements between sovereign nations themselves. It's possible that MAEU could sue JAXA or Hokkaido University in a Japanese court if they think they're violating Japanese law. If that's not the case, or if the Diet passes a new law that protects their countrymen in this dispute, then yeah it becomes the type of conflict you describe.

adinb 6y ago

Isn’t that what the World Trade Organization (WTO) is for?

freeflight 6y ago
The WTO has been effectively out of order these past years as the US has blocked the appointment of new judges to the appeals court. It's supposed to have seven judges, a minimum of three judges are required to issue rulings, but since 2019 there are only two judges left [0] So any ruling the WTO main body makes, like for example declaring US tariffs on China illegal [1], only needs to be appealed to be stuck in procedural limbo, which is exactly what ended up happening with the WTO ruling on US tariffs [2] [0] https://www.dw.com/en/wto-judge-blockage-could-prove-the-beginning-of-the-end/a-51613082# https://www.dw.com/en/wto-judge-blockage-could-prove-the-beg... [1] https://apnews.com/article/global-trade-china-archive-donald-trump-58a89252300408e255ed3a9a26004091 https://apnews.com/article/global-trade-china-archive-donald... [2] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-26/u-s-appeals-wto-ruling-that-trump-s-china-tariffs-were-illegal https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-26/u-s-appea...
- adinb 6y ago
  Thanks!