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Circa 2001/2002, I had a lot of fun learning SUSE Linux where we had CDs of the OS that we could install. I remember being able to do a partition on my Windows

Circa 2001/2002, I had a lot of fun learning SUSE Linux where we had CDs of the OS that we could install. I remember being able to do a partition on my Windows (98/XP) and installing SuSE Linux on it. Fun times.

posterboy 6y ago
I remember getting a CD of Suse with a C't magazine and that the installation process simply borked in the middle after a long while. That was that until it worked like a charm with better driver support (and a Debian based distro) a few years later.
txutxu 6y ago
CDs were common in redhat (still without the E of Enterprise linux), debian, slackware and all... But what to say about the manuals? Those manuals and books included with the CDs, in the box. For me they were a catalyst in my Linux learning. Really good quality manuals, with reference tables, and covering many (many) topics. From the the graphical environment to the command line, from the administration of the local system, to network services, good structure, nice tips, cheatsheets, reference tables, even covering kernel compilation! As you say, they did include everything needed, to live together with win98... tools, floppy images, etc... and the documentation about howto do it beforehand. In that modem times, with low speed internet, the CDs where valuable, indeed. But those books included in the box, for people like me in such times (self-taught beginner with Linux) those manuals were like gold! Did use my first linux from a CD in a computers magazine. Did play with redhat, and debian, then I did buy my first suse box with suse 6.0 (around 1999), and did buy again the box for suse 7 and 8. Latter I did get faster internet, and did jump 100% to debian for everything. But I still have those manuals with my books. The complete package (cds + books) is something that I remember fondly for how useful it was to me, and a lot of respect for the work of the people who made it.
- tazjin 6y ago
  +1 - I learned a lot from those giant manuals. I also remembered calling their (free at the time, I believe?) customer support hotline about issues with some printer and the guy dictating a bunch of kernel parameters to me over the phone (which did fix the issue!). Different times ...
  - pimeys 6y ago
    Definitely better than me asking help to install some pre-1.0 KDE beta in an IRC channel somewhere in the 90's. Some helpful hacker asked me to give them the root access so they could install KDE for me. I guess that's how I learned about not trusting everybody...
- NikolaNovak 6y ago
  Agreed. I have dozen books on Linux in my home office and of course there's the Internets... But I've never ever found something so cohesive, comprehensive,understandable and with a great guided curve. I kept them long past obsolescence as they just couldn't be replaced by anything better :-/
- thetopher 6y ago
  Just to add another tale from the past: Sometime in the late 90s I ordered a Red Hat CD from cheapbytes.com (CD burners weren't common yet). I didn't have a credit card yet, but I did have a checking account, so I paid for the order by mailing in a check.
  - codegeek 6y ago
    "CD Burners" Yep. They used to be premium in the 90s and even early 2000s. I remember how you were special if you had a CD burner on your computer instead of a regular CD Player :). Kinda like difference between a VCP and VCR for even older kids.
ibejoeb 6y ago
Was it SUSE that had tetris (or maybe pacman) available while the CD installer was running?
- pelasaco 6y ago
  that was Caldera!
  - ibejoeb 6y ago
    Wow, never would have recalled that on my own, but now I've got vivid memories of the unix lab...
- nix23 6y ago
  Suse has a special bootloader around Christmas: https://siasky.net/NACTymsHp70KBDeyHDUlyO-XHW6nMidXO-4PM4aYy56yZg https://siasky.net/NACTymsHp70KBDeyHDUlyO-XHW6nMidXO-4PM4aYy...
krylon 6y ago
Me too, but 2000/2001 - I still have the box and the CDs. SuSE Linux 7.0 Personal Edition. I did not anticipate how much of an impact on my life that was going to have. TL;DR - Go Suse! (-:
aplanas 6y ago
> Fun times Is still fun! There is Tumbleweed, a full rolling distribution (all packages with its own update cadence, and OBS fully building the dependencies that are impacted). There is also MicroOS, a transactional OS (BtrFS subvolumes for rootfs are read-only, and the update happens in the snapshot that will be activated after the reboot, providing a self-healing system when an upgrade does not affect the running environment) Also Leap, but this is indeed boring (15.3 will be based fully in SLE binaries)
- krylon 6y ago
  What goes around, comes around - I am writing this comment on a laptop running Tumbleweed, with another one running Leap 15.2 sitting next to me. Coming back to Suse was a bit like coming home. (-:
  - nix23 6y ago
    >Coming back to Suse was a bit like coming home. Oh that's so true, i started with 7.2 or .1, but never worked well, so i switched to mandrake, then a ~decade Debian, and now back (about 2years ago) to OpenSuse Leap (but with XFS as / and just on the laptop) everything else FreeBSD.
- TheCondor 6y ago
  It really feels like there is a Suse renaissance happening. MicroOS is particularly interesting. I wish them nothing but success, now that IBM has RHEL, maybe SLES will get new attention.
groundthrower 6y ago
My first experience with Linux was also after ordering their CD package... maybe around 5 discs? I almost remember first time ever logging in through the terminal after installation. Wow
bengale 6y ago
I remember getting my grandad to buy me a copy of SUSE from pcworld back around that time. I completely destroyed my home pc trying to install it, but I learned a lot putting all that right.
- Klonoar 6y ago
  I remember buying SUSE in a damn Best Buy. What a world...

posterboy 6y ago

I remember getting a CD of Suse with a C't magazine and that the installation process simply borked in the middle after a long while. That was that until it worked like a charm with better driver support (and a Debian based distro) a few years later.

txutxu 6y ago

CDs were common in redhat (still without the E of Enterprise linux), debian, slackware and all... But what to say about the manuals? Those manuals and books included with the CDs, in the box. For me they were a catalyst in my Linux learning. Really good quality manuals, with reference tables, and covering many (many) topics. From the the graphical environment to the command line, from the administration of the local system, to network services, good structure, nice tips, cheatsheets, reference tables, even covering kernel compilation! As you say, they did include everything needed, to live together with win98... tools, floppy images, etc... and the documentation about howto do it beforehand. In that modem times, with low speed internet, the CDs where valuable, indeed. But those books included in the box, for people like me in such times (self-taught beginner with Linux) those manuals were like gold! Did use my first linux from a CD in a computers magazine. Did play with redhat, and debian, then I did buy my first suse box with suse 6.0 (around 1999), and did buy again the box for suse 7 and 8. Latter I did get faster internet, and did jump 100% to debian for everything. But I still have those manuals with my books. The complete package (cds + books) is something that I remember fondly for how useful it was to me, and a lot of respect for the work of the people who made it.

tazjin 6y ago
+1 - I learned a lot from those giant manuals. I also remembered calling their (free at the time, I believe?) customer support hotline about issues with some printer and the guy dictating a bunch of kernel parameters to me over the phone (which did fix the issue!). Different times ...
- pimeys 6y ago
  Definitely better than me asking help to install some pre-1.0 KDE beta in an IRC channel somewhere in the 90's. Some helpful hacker asked me to give them the root access so they could install KDE for me. I guess that's how I learned about not trusting everybody...
NikolaNovak 6y ago
Agreed. I have dozen books on Linux in my home office and of course there's the Internets... But I've never ever found something so cohesive, comprehensive,understandable and with a great guided curve. I kept them long past obsolescence as they just couldn't be replaced by anything better :-/
thetopher 6y ago
Just to add another tale from the past: Sometime in the late 90s I ordered a Red Hat CD from cheapbytes.com (CD burners weren't common yet). I didn't have a credit card yet, but I did have a checking account, so I paid for the order by mailing in a check.
- codegeek 6y ago
  "CD Burners" Yep. They used to be premium in the 90s and even early 2000s. I remember how you were special if you had a CD burner on your computer instead of a regular CD Player :). Kinda like difference between a VCP and VCR for even older kids.

ibejoeb 6y ago

Was it SUSE that had tetris (or maybe pacman) available while the CD installer was running?

pelasaco 6y ago
that was Caldera!
- ibejoeb 6y ago
  Wow, never would have recalled that on my own, but now I've got vivid memories of the unix lab...
nix23 6y ago
Suse has a special bootloader around Christmas: https://siasky.net/NACTymsHp70KBDeyHDUlyO-XHW6nMidXO-4PM4aYy56yZg https://siasky.net/NACTymsHp70KBDeyHDUlyO-XHW6nMidXO-4PM4aYy...

krylon 6y ago

Me too, but 2000/2001 - I still have the box and the CDs. SuSE Linux 7.0 Personal Edition. I did not anticipate how much of an impact on my life that was going to have. TL;DR - Go Suse! (-:

aplanas 6y ago

> Fun times Is still fun! There is Tumbleweed, a full rolling distribution (all packages with its own update cadence, and OBS fully building the dependencies that are impacted). There is also MicroOS, a transactional OS (BtrFS subvolumes for rootfs are read-only, and the update happens in the snapshot that will be activated after the reboot, providing a self-healing system when an upgrade does not affect the running environment) Also Leap, but this is indeed boring (15.3 will be based fully in SLE binaries)

krylon 6y ago
What goes around, comes around - I am writing this comment on a laptop running Tumbleweed, with another one running Leap 15.2 sitting next to me. Coming back to Suse was a bit like coming home. (-:
- nix23 6y ago
  >Coming back to Suse was a bit like coming home. Oh that's so true, i started with 7.2 or .1, but never worked well, so i switched to mandrake, then a ~decade Debian, and now back (about 2years ago) to OpenSuse Leap (but with XFS as / and just on the laptop) everything else FreeBSD.
TheCondor 6y ago
It really feels like there is a Suse renaissance happening. MicroOS is particularly interesting. I wish them nothing but success, now that IBM has RHEL, maybe SLES will get new attention.

groundthrower 6y ago

My first experience with Linux was also after ordering their CD package... maybe around 5 discs? I almost remember first time ever logging in through the terminal after installation. Wow

bengale 6y ago

I remember getting my grandad to buy me a copy of SUSE from pcworld back around that time. I completely destroyed my home pc trying to install it, but I learned a lot putting all that right.

Klonoar 6y ago
I remember buying SUSE in a damn Best Buy. What a world...