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Millions of smartphones running on ARM would disagree.
by posterboy 6y ago
Millions of smartphones running on ARM would disagree.
- gegtik 6y agoare you saying phones are running general purpose OS and apps?
- u678u 6y agoyes. Browser, youtube, video calls, docs, games, there isn't much they can't do.
- tasogare 6y agoThey can’t be used for local development, so hard to consider them a general computing platform. They are more akin to consoles than PC.
- posterboy 6y agoIf I wanted to programm I could get a shell on a server for example. Now touch screen keyboards are a different problem.
- entropicdrifter 6y agoThonny runs well on my Pinebook Pro, so in that case comparably wimpy ARM based Linux machines can be used for things like Python development even with an IDE. It just depends on how heavy-duty what you're trying to do is. Scripting in general runs fine on my ARM SBCs. The real trouble is if you've got something that you need to recompile every time you make a change and you don't have a cache set up.
- bullen 6y agoWhen I see truth being downvoted I try to upvote, hn would be a better place if people learned to upvote, the high karma downers are really toxic. You need a keyboard and mouse to be productive, case closed! Edit: see the toxic high karma downers even got to this one!
- 3np 6y agoMeta commenting on comment voting is against the HN guidelines and tends to get downvoted. Please review them again.
- bullen 6y agoJesus christ this place is toxic by design. I bet you the high karma people click on your profile to see how much karma you have before they push you down. Eventually the HN database will leak, it's inevitable, I'll make sure to grab a copy then.
- 3np 6y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtV_gfkLgSc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtV_gfkLgSc
- detaro 6y agoThe tooling isn't particularly nice, but on Android it is clearly possible.
- posterboy 6y agoAbstractly speaking, yes. I notice the limitations on mobile of course, but you cannot deny the potential. I'm barking up the wrong tree, am I? sorry for the misunderstanding
- mattnewton 6y agoI think that kinda proves the parent comments point, since all the apps were re-written for mobile.
- posterboy 6y agoNo, not everything requires a complete rewrite. The browsers for example benefit from code reuse. The UI is another matter. Wrapping and rewriting is a given on the system side, though.
- bullen 6y agoI meant work as in compiling work, when you are used to 65W X86 the ARMs stand no chance. My 3D MMO engine compiles in 2 seconds on my Windows PC but it takes 10 seconds on Raspberry/Jetson, enough that I decided to build a 45W Atom computer to try the inbetween... with 25W CPU and 20W GPU! Even if that would mean I have to "port" the engine to linux/X86. Until now I just had windows/X86 and linux/ARM!
- xmodem 6y ago> when you are used to 65W X86 the ARM stand no chance. My m1 mac says hi! :)
- bullen 6y agoYes, it says hi and then when you want to upgrade the disk/RAM you can't. And when it breaks you can't fix it and Apple sells you another one for bazillion dollars. And you have to use Metal instead of OpenGL. That's when I say goodbye until they reverse engineer the GPU and port OpenGL to it! :D Now I didn't even mention the App store tie in and how you need to sign the binaries on Apple hardware and how they poach 30%, but you get the picture.
- antiterra 6y agoYou just moved the goalposts to another planet. Your initial comment was about wattage and ARM performance.
- kube-system 6y agoNot to mention that plenty of x86 hardware has also ditched socketed components.
- nkellenicki 6y agoNone of that is even remotely related to your initial point.
- lostlogin 6y ago