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I don't see that he's trying to own the libs. He points out what problems he sees with aspects of modernity- we all do that- in a comedic way, in the style of

I don't see that he's trying to own the libs. He points out what problems he sees with aspects of modernity- we all do that- in a comedic way, in the style of internet subculture, and advocates seperation from that modernity and its problems. Hence moving out of cities to small towns, moving off of big tech platforms and having your own personal website, growing and cooking your own food, etc. In general, becoming progressively more independent from macroscopic society. This stickman guy seems to be the opposite of that. Hanging around in cities, headbutting with antifa losers, makes you just as much of a loser. None of it's real, it's all performative- it's all cringe, a waste of time, a distraction when you could be building something better. LS definitely wouldn't consider stickman 'based'. I don't see the edginess, either. Something edgy is trying to be transgressive and out there, but LS's thumbnails and titles are just standard /g/ vernacular. To his audience- internet-goers who are used to /g/-style vernacular- there's nothing edgy or transgressive about the language/imagery used, it's just standard memes. Speaking your subculture's language to your subculture isn't edgy. Black rappers don't say digger to offend white suburban moms, LS isn't going to left-wing people's facebook/twitter pages and posting soyboy memes at them; he's mocking those people in his own space, among his subculture. Of course they can be edgy and offensive to you, but you're the suburban white woman in this scenario. I certainly don't think anyone should aspire to being 'a nice linux nerd', or to go out of their way to appease suburban white moms' overactive sensitivities and imaginations, for that matter. That would be very cringe and bluepilled, so to speak.

dguaraglia 6y ago
That's a lot of text to try to justify being a shithead. My favorite ridiculous bit is when you pretend that all the stupid /g/ slang isn't designed around shock value. By your own argument, I guess pedophilia is acceptable and not transgressive of social norms as long as your audience is a group of pedophiles. I wish I could kiss that juicy multi-dimensional galaxy brain of yours! BTW, there's nothing wrong about trying to be nice. Like, literally there's nothing more acceptable than being agreeable. But I guess that's too much to ask from someone like you who is clearly too cool for school and 'so based'. I used to think like that when I was an edgy teen. I'm so glad I grew the fuck up.
- curtainsforus 6y ago
  If all the time I've wasted on 4chan has taught me anything, it's that calling people shitheads, or more colorful variants, does little to change their mind. The problem with pedophilia isn't that it's offensive, it's the harm caused. As you well know... If you can make a good case that soydev memes are as bad as, you know, molesting kids, then please do. The point about niceness is that agreeableness alone isn't indicative of morality. The bureaucrats managing the death trains were as agreeable as anyone. Niceness is nice to have, and some degree of agreeableness is needed to operate in society, but niceness for niceness' sake is just vapid. Successful sociopaths are nice. Niceness, politeness, these are all social ceasefires/tools. Nothing wrong with that, but they shouldn't be the fundament of your personality- there should be something more to you than "I'm a nice guy". And "I'm a nice linux nerd" just sounds especially vapid. If I met you in real life, I'd be nice and polite (according to the social rules of our current culture), of course. And LS is being nice and polite according to the social rules of /g/ culture. That space isn't really meant for you and doesn't have to conform to the rules of politeness of mainstream culture, much as you wouldn't go into, I don't know, a punk rock concert and ask them to tone down their language a bit. Would you deny these weirdos their safe space, where they can joke about wagecucks and gnutards? That language was born of attempts to be edgy, yes, but once it became fixed it was no longer mutually offensive to interlocutors. Ironically, you're being more interpersonally combative/abrasive than anyone I've seen on LS's channel! Less nice, in other words. With your attitude, and your sailor's mouth, you might belong on 4chan, after all.
  - dguaraglia 6y ago
    > If all the time I've wasted on 4chan has taught me anything, it's that calling people shitheads, or more colorful variants, does little to change their mind. I'm not here to convert anyone. Catharsis is also a perfectly valid reason to do something. > The problem with pedophilia isn't that it's offensive, it's the harm caused. As you well know... If you can make a good case that soydev memes are as bad as, you know, molesting kids, then please do. Filling people's heads with 'edgy' stuff has led us to the current situation were we have self-declared incels shooting up public places while live-streaming their violence 'for the lulz'. The Christchurch massacre was the perfect example of the logical conclusion of the nihilistic onanism that is 4chan shitposting. I'd argue that setting people into the edgy -> racist to be edgy -> conspiracy theories about replacement -> violence sausage machine, on the premise of laughing at 'soydevs' (whatever that is supposed to mean) has real-life consequences just as bad as pedophilia. > That space isn't really meant for you and doesn't have to conform to the rules of politeness of mainstream culture, much as you wouldn't go into, I don't know, a punk rock concert and ask them to tone down their language a bit. > Would you deny these weirdos their safe space, where they can joke about wagecucks and gnutards? As I said, the problem with these weirdos' safe-space is that it is increasingly leading to consequences in the real world. They can say whatever the hell they want in their safe-space, but you can't ask me to not tell them how stupid and/or deranged they sound when they come to my space. That's the only way to adjust their expectations `` > Ironically, you're being more interpersonally combative/abrasive than anyone I've seen on LS's channel! Less nice, in other words. With your attitude, and your sailor's mouth, you might belong on 4chan, after all. Almost like people can have strong opinions without having to resort to calling others 'soydevs' and 'suburban white women'.

dguaraglia 6y ago

That's a lot of text to try to justify being a shithead. My favorite ridiculous bit is when you pretend that all the stupid /g/ slang isn't designed around shock value. By your own argument, I guess pedophilia is acceptable and not transgressive of social norms as long as your audience is a group of pedophiles. I wish I could kiss that juicy multi-dimensional galaxy brain of yours! BTW, there's nothing wrong about trying to be nice. Like, literally there's nothing more acceptable than being agreeable. But I guess that's too much to ask from someone like you who is clearly too cool for school and 'so based'. I used to think like that when I was an edgy teen. I'm so glad I grew the fuck up.

curtainsforus 6y ago
If all the time I've wasted on 4chan has taught me anything, it's that calling people shitheads, or more colorful variants, does little to change their mind. The problem with pedophilia isn't that it's offensive, it's the harm caused. As you well know... If you can make a good case that soydev memes are as bad as, you know, molesting kids, then please do. The point about niceness is that agreeableness alone isn't indicative of morality. The bureaucrats managing the death trains were as agreeable as anyone. Niceness is nice to have, and some degree of agreeableness is needed to operate in society, but niceness for niceness' sake is just vapid. Successful sociopaths are nice. Niceness, politeness, these are all social ceasefires/tools. Nothing wrong with that, but they shouldn't be the fundament of your personality- there should be something more to you than "I'm a nice guy". And "I'm a nice linux nerd" just sounds especially vapid. If I met you in real life, I'd be nice and polite (according to the social rules of our current culture), of course. And LS is being nice and polite according to the social rules of /g/ culture. That space isn't really meant for you and doesn't have to conform to the rules of politeness of mainstream culture, much as you wouldn't go into, I don't know, a punk rock concert and ask them to tone down their language a bit. Would you deny these weirdos their safe space, where they can joke about wagecucks and gnutards? That language was born of attempts to be edgy, yes, but once it became fixed it was no longer mutually offensive to interlocutors. Ironically, you're being more interpersonally combative/abrasive than anyone I've seen on LS's channel! Less nice, in other words. With your attitude, and your sailor's mouth, you might belong on 4chan, after all.
- dguaraglia 6y ago
  > If all the time I've wasted on 4chan has taught me anything, it's that calling people shitheads, or more colorful variants, does little to change their mind. I'm not here to convert anyone. Catharsis is also a perfectly valid reason to do something. > The problem with pedophilia isn't that it's offensive, it's the harm caused. As you well know... If you can make a good case that soydev memes are as bad as, you know, molesting kids, then please do. Filling people's heads with 'edgy' stuff has led us to the current situation were we have self-declared incels shooting up public places while live-streaming their violence 'for the lulz'. The Christchurch massacre was the perfect example of the logical conclusion of the nihilistic onanism that is 4chan shitposting. I'd argue that setting people into the edgy -> racist to be edgy -> conspiracy theories about replacement -> violence sausage machine, on the premise of laughing at 'soydevs' (whatever that is supposed to mean) has real-life consequences just as bad as pedophilia. > That space isn't really meant for you and doesn't have to conform to the rules of politeness of mainstream culture, much as you wouldn't go into, I don't know, a punk rock concert and ask them to tone down their language a bit. > Would you deny these weirdos their safe space, where they can joke about wagecucks and gnutards? As I said, the problem with these weirdos' safe-space is that it is increasingly leading to consequences in the real world. They can say whatever the hell they want in their safe-space, but you can't ask me to not tell them how stupid and/or deranged they sound when they come to my space. That's the only way to adjust their expectations `` > Ironically, you're being more interpersonally combative/abrasive than anyone I've seen on LS's channel! Less nice, in other words. With your attitude, and your sailor's mouth, you might belong on 4chan, after all. Almost like people can have strong opinions without having to resort to calling others 'soydevs' and 'suburban white women'.