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The government is severely underfunding the NHS, despite paying it lip service Have you ever known any government departments that don’t howl about being under

The government is severely underfunding the NHS, despite paying it lip service Have you ever known any government departments that don’t howl about being underfunded? The NHS is the 4th largest employer in the world, 1.3 million employees to provide healthcare to a nation of 67 million. The Labour Party is currently claiming that NHS spending will be cut next year... because the emergency funding for the Covid situation won’t be made a permanent part of its budget!!

iso1631 6y ago
> The NHS is the 4th largest employer in the world, 1.3 million employees to provide healthcare to a nation of 67 million. Yet taxpayer funding for health per head of population in the UK is lower than France Germany Sweden Switzerland And get this -- THE USA In 2009 - so before Obamacare came in, the US government spent $3,700 per person on healthcare. Not per person covered by medicare and military, per citizen. The UK spent $2,700, and everyone was covered.
- formerly_proven 6y ago
  Spending is irrelevant, the success lies in outcomes. You brought the US up, and it’s a good example here: very high costs, poor outcomes.
  - iso1631 6y ago
    Outcomes of a health system are tricky to measure compariatively, let alone put a dollar value on, which I guess is why people like them. Broadly though, UK, Germany, France, Sweden health systems tend to have the same ballpark. UK has always cost far less than those countries though.
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- Nimitz14 6y ago
  And the coverage sucked. The care provided by the NHS is very poor while paying its employees very little and forcing to work with garbage equipment.
  - goatinaboat 6y ago
    The care provided by the NHS is very poor while paying its employees very little and forcing to work with garbage equipment. Doctors and administrators are very well paid. Even nurses are when you factor in the pension. The only genuinely underpaid staff in the NHS are its cleaners who are the REAL frontline against infectious diseases. Didn’t see them doing many Tiktok dances however, too busy with real work.

iso1631 6y ago

> The NHS is the 4th largest employer in the world, 1.3 million employees to provide healthcare to a nation of 67 million. Yet taxpayer funding for health per head of population in the UK is lower than France Germany Sweden Switzerland And get this -- THE USA In 2009 - so before Obamacare came in, the US government spent $3,700 per person on healthcare. Not per person covered by medicare and military, per citizen. The UK spent $2,700, and everyone was covered.

formerly_proven 6y ago
Spending is irrelevant, the success lies in outcomes. You brought the US up, and it’s a good example here: very high costs, poor outcomes.
- iso1631 6y ago
  Outcomes of a health system are tricky to measure compariatively, let alone put a dollar value on, which I guess is why people like them. Broadly though, UK, Germany, France, Sweden health systems tend to have the same ballpark. UK has always cost far less than those countries though.
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Nimitz14 6y ago
And the coverage sucked. The care provided by the NHS is very poor while paying its employees very little and forcing to work with garbage equipment.
- goatinaboat 6y ago
  The care provided by the NHS is very poor while paying its employees very little and forcing to work with garbage equipment. Doctors and administrators are very well paid. Even nurses are when you factor in the pension. The only genuinely underpaid staff in the NHS are its cleaners who are the REAL frontline against infectious diseases. Didn’t see them doing many Tiktok dances however, too busy with real work.