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The shock of being well ahead of the EU on vaccinations?

dijit 6y ago
Broken clocks are right twice a day. Though I agree that involving both the military and the NHS has resulted in being enormously successful at rolling out the vaccine. Let’s hope that the NHS gets properly funded and doesn’t get privatised. Because the US vaccination rollout is a shambles.
- bb123 6y ago
  Is it? They’re about 4th globally, and way ahead of the EU.
- kmeisthax 6y ago
  >the US vaccination rollout is a shambles Japan: You guys have vaccines? In all honesty, this statement is fairly close to being hilariously wrong. The US vaccinates more people per day than any other country in the world. The reason why the UK has a higher per-capita vaccination rate is A) there's less of you to vaccinate, and B) the UK isn't doing two doses. The former makes the rollout easier - there are countries like Israel where they're close to vaccine herd immunity as they simply needed fewer doses. The latter is a calculated risk only somewhat supported by the available medical data. I don't expect every country to adopt First Dose First, especially if they've already given two doses to high-risk populations that would benefit from getting half their protection sooner. Trust me, there's plenty of other things you can harangue the US about all day - vaccines aren't one of them.
  - Nursie 6y ago
    We're doing two doses! Just with a larger gap in between. Yes, the data is patchy but so far it's coming back as approx 75% protection from one dose, and identical (or even slightly boosted) protection after the delayed second dose compared to the shorter schedule. I trust "the math" that shows a better population outcome there, even though individuals will have higher risk profiles this way.
- sanity31415 6y ago
  If a broken clock can succeed on the greatest test of governing competence in a generation then what does that say about the EU's failure?

Broken clocks are right twice a day. Though I agree that involving both the military and the NHS has resulted in being enormously successful at rolling out the vaccine. Let’s hope that the NHS gets properly funded and doesn’t get privatised. Because the US vaccination rollout is a shambles.

bb123 6y ago
Is it? They’re about 4th globally, and way ahead of the EU.
kmeisthax 6y ago
>the US vaccination rollout is a shambles Japan: You guys have vaccines? In all honesty, this statement is fairly close to being hilariously wrong. The US vaccinates more people per day than any other country in the world. The reason why the UK has a higher per-capita vaccination rate is A) there's less of you to vaccinate, and B) the UK isn't doing two doses. The former makes the rollout easier - there are countries like Israel where they're close to vaccine herd immunity as they simply needed fewer doses. The latter is a calculated risk only somewhat supported by the available medical data. I don't expect every country to adopt First Dose First, especially if they've already given two doses to high-risk populations that would benefit from getting half their protection sooner. Trust me, there's plenty of other things you can harangue the US about all day - vaccines aren't one of them.
- Nursie 6y ago
  We're doing two doses! Just with a larger gap in between. Yes, the data is patchy but so far it's coming back as approx 75% protection from one dose, and identical (or even slightly boosted) protection after the delayed second dose compared to the shorter schedule. I trust "the math" that shows a better population outcome there, even though individuals will have higher risk profiles this way.
sanity31415 6y ago
If a broken clock can succeed on the greatest test of governing competence in a generation then what does that say about the EU's failure?