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Everyone seems to be attacking the arguments from the same angle and I feel it is wrong: There are a few arguments going on: - Is the left and the right reall
by Justsignedup 6y ago
Everyone seems to be attacking the arguments from the same angle and I feel it is wrong:
There are a few arguments going on:
- Is the left and the right really the same 2 extremes?
- Should we enable radicals on the platforms because free speech?
- Should we treat everyone with respect?
The problem is that what we really have is a few crowds:
(1) "They took our guns" people. Single issue, at the expense of all others. This unfortunately includes "the climate crisis is a hoax" and "COVID is a hoax" and "Vaccines are evil" crowd.
(2) Ensure human rights to all people of the country crowd. This is more of a social argument that conflicts highly with people who scapegoat. This is effectively the anti-scapegoat crowd, usually considered the "left".
(3) Social equality crowd (usually is a subset of (2)). This is all about people who are looking at patterns in society that elevate one group at the expense of another. This isn't rich vs poor, but rather for example looking at how school funding is set up to make sure certain community have terrible school and thus a perpetuating cycle of crime and poverty.
The problem is that the (1) crowd is being used to elect politicians who basically give no shit about society, and only focus on making the rich richer at the expense of everything else. I mean fucking pandemic and corporate bailouts, while most businesses collapse. These politicians vote directly against the (1) crowd, and everyone else, but push division.
We're no longer actually debating economic policies. We're debating racism and voting based on that. I am not happy with the democratic party in the US. They are pretty terrible. But the other side is literal Nazis.
The problem with "embracing" and fixing the (1) crowd is that a large number of people opposing (1) are directly harmed by (1). Very hard to forgive when the causes of the deaths of your family are asking for hugs caz "sorry I realized I am wrong". Many are not willing to do that. How do you ask someone to give up their trauma and find it in their hearts to forgive the other side? It can happen, but it is not "simple".
- captainredbeard 6y agoDo you live in the US? The way you phrased that makes me wonder and the Republicans are not anywhere near unified enough (or draconian enough) to be Nazis. As a reminder, the Nazis interred people based on race and exterminated them. The Republicans are just jerks.