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Yeah we saw the mighty EU negotiation leverage with COVID vaccine... UK market is large enough to stand on it's own and EU has been grossly incompetent in publ

Yeah we saw the mighty EU negotiation leverage with COVID vaccine... UK market is large enough to stand on it's own and EU has been grossly incompetent in public for a while now. There's going to be downsides for sure but becoming "America like" is not going to be one of them.

tomelders 6y ago
You're cherry picking.
- oytis 6y ago
  It is a huge cherry though, and I believe we're yet to see the full economic effect of EU lagging behind US and UK in vaccinations.
- acta_non_verba 6y ago
  This is exactly the kind of situation Government is for. Protecting its people from a foe that can only be defeated at a national level. The European Union has categorically failed, and if it survives this, it will need huge amounts of change.
- inops 6y ago
  Which is exactly what is done with Britain. News item, queue "they get what they deserve". How about the EU gets what it deserves for being a undemocratic, big bungling bureaucracy?
- reader_mode 6y ago
  No I'm not - EU is the least relevant big player on the global scale, economically and militarily - mostly because it's such a weak union of extremely diverse countries with weak common identity (as demonstrated by squabbles at any crisis - financial, COVID, immigration, etc.) It makes sense for smaller countries like mine (Croatia) because of free travel, easier access to a larger market, lower cost of doing business, and truly being too small to negotiate good terms on a global scale. It probably makes a lot less sense for UK which can negotiate it's own terms with other global powers that fit them much better. I have no doubt there will be many negatives to Brexit, but as demonstrated by COVID situation there's a huge opportunity for UK - for example I suspect they can secure better trade deals with the US without having to worry about the protectionist interests pushed by other EU members.

tomelders 6y ago

You're cherry picking.

oytis 6y ago
It is a huge cherry though, and I believe we're yet to see the full economic effect of EU lagging behind US and UK in vaccinations.
acta_non_verba 6y ago
This is exactly the kind of situation Government is for. Protecting its people from a foe that can only be defeated at a national level. The European Union has categorically failed, and if it survives this, it will need huge amounts of change.
inops 6y ago
Which is exactly what is done with Britain. News item, queue "they get what they deserve". How about the EU gets what it deserves for being a undemocratic, big bungling bureaucracy?
reader_mode 6y ago
No I'm not - EU is the least relevant big player on the global scale, economically and militarily - mostly because it's such a weak union of extremely diverse countries with weak common identity (as demonstrated by squabbles at any crisis - financial, COVID, immigration, etc.) It makes sense for smaller countries like mine (Croatia) because of free travel, easier access to a larger market, lower cost of doing business, and truly being too small to negotiate good terms on a global scale. It probably makes a lot less sense for UK which can negotiate it's own terms with other global powers that fit them much better. I have no doubt there will be many negatives to Brexit, but as demonstrated by COVID situation there's a huge opportunity for UK - for example I suspect they can secure better trade deals with the US without having to worry about the protectionist interests pushed by other EU members.