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This seems simultaneously too intrusive, and yet not intrusive enough to actually benefit law enforcement. They are logging source and destination IPs. But to w
by jl6 6y ago
This seems simultaneously too intrusive, and yet not intrusive enough to actually benefit law enforcement. They are logging source and destination IPs. But to what end? What can that possibly prove? Surely the vast majority of crime occurs at the application level.
- csunbird 6y agoThey are slowly boiling the frog (the citizens). This surely will be extended to more data in the future.
- breakingcups 6y ago"Fun" fact, that only works on lobotomized frogs. Regular healthy frogs just jump out of the pan when it gets uncomfortable.
- upofadown 6y agoHow? For TLS connections that is all the information available.
- noir_lord 6y agohttps://www.cryptomuseum.com/crypto/usa/clipper.htm https://www.cryptomuseum.com/crypto/usa/clipper.htm It's not like governments haven't tried to backdoor computing devices via the legal route before.
- Rule35 6y agoAlso, they have the IP the "anonymous users" are connecting to. They know who to go lean on to get the logs.
- intricatedetail 6y agoConnected to Tor or VPN? You must be up to something...
- Sophira 6y agoIt wouldn't be too difficult to work out which app/site you're using given profiling data on which hosts are contacted during typical runs, and that data can be generalised in cases where the services use multiple names.
- megous 6y agoYou can ask one end (typically the service end) for timestamp and local and remote port and IP address. Then you ask ISP to lookup subscriber info (via account id) based on that. You can do that already in some EU countries, just by lodging a complaint with police as a service provider (say you have an e-shop) for example. ISPs have to store these logs for some months.
- nly 6y agoThis is coupled with extensive logging of DNS queries. If you connect to IP xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx a few milliseconds after looking up the IP for badsite.com then you're probably connecting to badsite.com. Then they can get a warrant for badsite.com's web server logs, or cloudflares logs if badsite.com is using it...