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The result was that opposing players became hesitant to get too close to the net, thus solving the problem somewhat. Hahaha this was my solution too
by JohnBooty 6y ago
The result was that opposing players became
hesitant to get too close to the net, thus
solving the problem somewhat.
Hahaha this was my solution too in floor/street hockey. I was not the best goalie in terms of sheer athleticism, to put it extremely mildly.
So I took advantage of my size and the goalie equipment and got good at throwing my body into scrums around the net. I didn't even hit opposing players per se. But if there was a loose puck/ball I took advantage of the fact that I could make a beeline for it and if there happened to be an opposing player in my way... well, unfortunate for them!
A possible solution could be to expand the
goalie-only area around the net. That would,
in theory, force opponents to focus more on
shooting and not on piling around the goalie.
This is a very surprising conclusion given that they tried this already in the 90s and it was a total disaster. Culminating in the infamous Cup-winning goal (against Hasek, from your clip above) no less.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/343121-one-final-thought-on-the-1999-stanley-cup-no-goal https://bleacherreport.com/articles/343121-one-final-thought...
It was a boon for the goalies, not the scorers, and it turned every goal into a controversial mess. As a fan you couldn't even celebrate a goal -- you had to wait until the refs and/or replay decided if it was okay or not minutes later.
Part of the problem is that attacking players can't really control their position in a precise way in a scrum, given all of the contact and the fact that everybody's, well, wearing ice skates. Half of the time the goals were called off for a player being in the goalie crease it wasn't their fault.
And then there was Martin Brodeur, who absolutely broke the game for about a decade by skating around like an "invulnerable third defenseman nobody was allowed to touch." Effective, but really contrary to the spirit of the game and about as much fun as watching paint dry.
I really cannot think of a solution besides larger nets.
4-on-4 makes for really exciting hockey but that feels like fundamentally changing the sport too much. It would also IMO place too much emphasis on penalties. A 5-on-4 advantage for two minutes is one thing but 4-on-3 is quite another. Refereeing in a mass action sport will always be highly imperfect and that would really put the game in the refs' hands.
- dmurray 6y agoMaybe the penalties could still be 5-on-4: the offending player gets removed, but can be replaced, and the other team gets to bring on an additional skater.
- JohnBooty 6y agoI think it would work but it's such a fundamental change to the sport that I can't imagine any established hockey league even considering it. Not saying they shouldn't, just saying they won't! The most radical change I can imagine them considering would be eliminating offsides.
- dmurray 6y agoIs it bigger than changing the size of the goal (the author's preferred solution?)
- JohnBooty 6y agoYes, I think altering the number of players on the ice is way more radical than changing the size of the goal by a few %... I wouldn't think they are even comparable! What do you think?
- dmurray 6y agoI don't watch enough hockey to know, and never played. But if the goalie can cover 90% of the small goal, and 70% of a goal just a few percent bigger, it makes sense to me that could be a bigger change than changing the number of players.
- JohnBooty 6y agoFor a lot of people, it's more than a sport. It's a huge chunk of Canada's identity for well over a century. Changing the number of players on the ice would be like... well, I can't think of an analogy. But they'd never go for that. (Watch them prove me wrong...) But if the goalie can cover 90% of the small goal, and 70% of a goal just a few percent bigger, it makes sense to me that could be a bigger change than changing the number of players. I don't think they're trying to make the biggest change possible, right? I don't think anybody's talking about changing the fundamental nature of the sport. 4 vs. 4 would change everything right down to roster construction, who you want to draft, and other aspects. Also there's now less ice time to go around. etc. It's also a very coarse adjustment. Versus changing net dimensions, something they could experiment with in small increments at the minor league level.