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I'm not even sure if you're talking about the racist left or the racist right and that is mildly amusing. I don't know a lot (any?) racist right folks, but I k

I'm not even sure if you're talking about the racist left or the racist right and that is mildly amusing. I don't know a lot (any?) racist right folks, but I know a shitload of racist left and they ALL publicly, verbally, in writing, rail against racism in one breath, and then shit on white people in the next. I acknowledge that this is anecdotal, but still...

hef19898 6y ago
There is no racism against white people in the, what, northern hemisphere. And never was. In that part of the world, racism comes from the white population and is aimed at others. Calling white racists out definitely isn't racism.
- Huwyt_Nashi030 6y ago
  Thankyou for your service, accelerationist.
- arthurcolle 6y ago
  Racism is literally defined as discrimination against any singular group based on race or ethnic group. Discrimination, irrespective of its origin on the left or right wing of the spectrum, should be treated identically. Implicit and explicit racial discrimination is omnipresent on both sides of the spectrum. This is evidenced by literally pulling up any of the popular social justice warrior channels on YouTube; you then immediately come in contact with it. It is farcical for anyone to push through a narrative that doesn't acknowledge this fact. "White male" has become a demeaning putdown by many enthusiastic liberals, which is evidence enough. Enough.
  - hef19898 6y ago
    "White male"? So we are now rolling in sexism and racism to defend the, historically, most powerful group of people on the planet and their hurt feelings about having to give some of their privileges, whether or not they really have? Ok, I guess. Also, please note I said in the northern hemisphere. Assuming most of us here are living there. Could be different in, say, Africa or Asia. But even there it is not even close to the "white farmer genocide" shit that is still being spread.
    - arthurcolle 6y ago
      My race and ethnicity has nothing to do with whether or not I am actively oppressing others. Whether these are correlated right now is irrelevant to how we should be behaving in a modern day, postmodern civil society. Not sure the rest of your post makes any sense. I don't consider myself a racist or a sexist and I find it appalling that I am unable to comment on ongoing social issues without being called a "white male" or being told that my opinions are invalid because my lack of melanin seems to imply I am part of an elite group of oppressors. This is insulting and lacks any intellectual merit.
      - hef19898 6y ago
        I didn't call you racist or sexist. And you brought up "white male" in your post I replied to. Historically speaking, there was bo group more privileged than white, European males. Being one myself, I don't see anything wrong with simply acknowledging that simple fact.
        covid5throw 6y ago
        Maybe because white men went out and did things? Your idea of privilege didn't just fall in our lap, it came after thousands of years of studying nature, warfare, conquering, etc. It also wasn't guaranteed, what would have happened if Persia conquered Greece?
    - Hitton 6y ago
      Do you realize that whole Asia and majority of Africa is in northern hemisphere?
      - hef19898 6y ago
        Yes. So? How much anti white (male) racism is happening in these regions?
        Hitton 6y ago
  - kristopolous 6y ago
    Racism is about institutions, power structures, and epistemology, it's not about youtube channels. An internet rando blabbing to their cellphone camera isn't what makes median black family wealth 1/8th that of their white counterparts (https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/disparities-in-wealth-by-race-and-ethnicity-in-the-2019-survey-of-consumer-finances-20200928.htm https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/disp...). It's institutions and power structures which creates that. For example, speculative home values in whiter neighborhoods lead to higher home prices and thus higher property taxes and thus better funded schools and so the racist-system continues. Nobody is explicitly being racist there. Speculating in the white neighborhood is genuinely a better investment yield. Just like with investing in Javanese over Sudanese neighborhoods in Indonesia or Croat over Serb towns in Croatia. The human created systems, the cultural milieu and its structures, they lead to racist outcomes. It's all artificial. That's why passing works (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passing_(racial_identity) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passing_(racial_identity)). Realizing it's mostly cultural just like it is with say the Hmong and Lao people, where you can just change the clothes, grooming and mannerisms and our minds recategorize, that's the radical leap for people. There's physical differences but they're more imagined than real and can often be short-circuited. Our collective minds have an invisible override switch. When people are being racist, they have an epistemology that the different outcomes is a natural result of racial hierarchies. They use these human created systems as their empirical evidence and not realize this logic is a self-reinforcing system. It's like when police departments disproportionally patrol and focus on one group, find more things in that group and use it as evidence that their suspicions were well-founded. At different times the supposed more criminal groups have been everything from the roma, suffragists, gays, 7th day adventists, rock and roll fans, jewish people, Chinese immigrants, jehovah's witnesses, Catholics, italians... It's all arbitrary. The closed logic loop it perpetuates, that's racism.
    - AlgorithmicTime 6y ago
      Median black family wealth is 1/8th of white family wealth. Sure, true. What's the median family wealth of African immigrant families and descendants? You know the answer - they're actually at least as well off as the average white. So, what can we learn from that?
kristopolous 6y ago
Here's three, you need an account to see them. https://gab.com/tags/whitepower https://gab.com/tags/whitepower https://gab.com/tags/jews https://gab.com/tags/jews https://gab.com/tags/blacks https://gab.com/tags/blacks Just scroll. They also have literal Nazi groups such as https://gab.com/groups/248 https://gab.com/groups/248 that are genuinely and sincerely advocating for nazism.
- smaryjerry 6y ago
  I think literally actively searching for something mostly hidden is very different from it being public. A few fringe social media posts are what you are linking to with few likes and shares, versus large media or tech companies with a reach in not only millions but hundreds of millions of views openly publishing articles blaming whites for everything under the sun.

hef19898 6y ago

There is no racism against white people in the, what, northern hemisphere. And never was. In that part of the world, racism comes from the white population and is aimed at others. Calling white racists out definitely isn't racism.

Huwyt_Nashi030 6y ago
Thankyou for your service, accelerationist.
arthurcolle 6y ago
Racism is literally defined as discrimination against any singular group based on race or ethnic group. Discrimination, irrespective of its origin on the left or right wing of the spectrum, should be treated identically. Implicit and explicit racial discrimination is omnipresent on both sides of the spectrum. This is evidenced by literally pulling up any of the popular social justice warrior channels on YouTube; you then immediately come in contact with it. It is farcical for anyone to push through a narrative that doesn't acknowledge this fact. "White male" has become a demeaning putdown by many enthusiastic liberals, which is evidence enough. Enough.
- hef19898 6y ago
  "White male"? So we are now rolling in sexism and racism to defend the, historically, most powerful group of people on the planet and their hurt feelings about having to give some of their privileges, whether or not they really have? Ok, I guess. Also, please note I said in the northern hemisphere. Assuming most of us here are living there. Could be different in, say, Africa or Asia. But even there it is not even close to the "white farmer genocide" shit that is still being spread.
  - arthurcolle 6y ago
    My race and ethnicity has nothing to do with whether or not I am actively oppressing others. Whether these are correlated right now is irrelevant to how we should be behaving in a modern day, postmodern civil society. Not sure the rest of your post makes any sense. I don't consider myself a racist or a sexist and I find it appalling that I am unable to comment on ongoing social issues without being called a "white male" or being told that my opinions are invalid because my lack of melanin seems to imply I am part of an elite group of oppressors. This is insulting and lacks any intellectual merit.
    - hef19898 6y ago
      I didn't call you racist or sexist. And you brought up "white male" in your post I replied to. Historically speaking, there was bo group more privileged than white, European males. Being one myself, I don't see anything wrong with simply acknowledging that simple fact.
      - covid5throw 6y ago
        Maybe because white men went out and did things? Your idea of privilege didn't just fall in our lap, it came after thousands of years of studying nature, warfare, conquering, etc. It also wasn't guaranteed, what would have happened if Persia conquered Greece?
  - Hitton 6y ago
    Do you realize that whole Asia and majority of Africa is in northern hemisphere?
    - hef19898 6y ago
      Yes. So? How much anti white (male) racism is happening in these regions?
      - Hitton 6y ago
- kristopolous 6y ago
  Racism is about institutions, power structures, and epistemology, it's not about youtube channels. An internet rando blabbing to their cellphone camera isn't what makes median black family wealth 1/8th that of their white counterparts (https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/disparities-in-wealth-by-race-and-ethnicity-in-the-2019-survey-of-consumer-finances-20200928.htm https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/disp...). It's institutions and power structures which creates that. For example, speculative home values in whiter neighborhoods lead to higher home prices and thus higher property taxes and thus better funded schools and so the racist-system continues. Nobody is explicitly being racist there. Speculating in the white neighborhood is genuinely a better investment yield. Just like with investing in Javanese over Sudanese neighborhoods in Indonesia or Croat over Serb towns in Croatia. The human created systems, the cultural milieu and its structures, they lead to racist outcomes. It's all artificial. That's why passing works (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passing_(racial_identity) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passing_(racial_identity)). Realizing it's mostly cultural just like it is with say the Hmong and Lao people, where you can just change the clothes, grooming and mannerisms and our minds recategorize, that's the radical leap for people. There's physical differences but they're more imagined than real and can often be short-circuited. Our collective minds have an invisible override switch. When people are being racist, they have an epistemology that the different outcomes is a natural result of racial hierarchies. They use these human created systems as their empirical evidence and not realize this logic is a self-reinforcing system. It's like when police departments disproportionally patrol and focus on one group, find more things in that group and use it as evidence that their suspicions were well-founded. At different times the supposed more criminal groups have been everything from the roma, suffragists, gays, 7th day adventists, rock and roll fans, jewish people, Chinese immigrants, jehovah's witnesses, Catholics, italians... It's all arbitrary. The closed logic loop it perpetuates, that's racism.
  - AlgorithmicTime 6y ago
    Median black family wealth is 1/8th of white family wealth. Sure, true. What's the median family wealth of African immigrant families and descendants? You know the answer - they're actually at least as well off as the average white. So, what can we learn from that?

kristopolous 6y ago

Here's three, you need an account to see them. https://gab.com/tags/whitepower https://gab.com/tags/whitepower https://gab.com/tags/jews https://gab.com/tags/jews https://gab.com/tags/blacks https://gab.com/tags/blacks Just scroll. They also have literal Nazi groups such as https://gab.com/groups/248 https://gab.com/groups/248 that are genuinely and sincerely advocating for nazism.

smaryjerry 6y ago
I think literally actively searching for something mostly hidden is very different from it being public. A few fringe social media posts are what you are linking to with few likes and shares, versus large media or tech companies with a reach in not only millions but hundreds of millions of views openly publishing articles blaming whites for everything under the sun.