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The author makes 2 basic mistakes 1. Suggesting that goalies are nearly equally suited on their knees as on their skates. 2. Forgetting the goaltending rule e

The author makes 2 basic mistakes 1. Suggesting that goalies are nearly equally suited on their knees as on their skates. 2. Forgetting the goaltending rule exists in basketball.

keiferski 6y ago
The article is written by a goalie who has won six Stanley cups.
- tempestn 6y ago
  Also nothing in the article suggested a misunderstanding of the goaltending rule.
  - ErikVandeWater 6y ago
    Here you go: > Only the ball needs to get to the hoop, and in this NBA game, it doesn’t matter whether you are 7 feet tall or 8 feet tall; a ball shot from beyond the 23-foot-9-inch arc will loop over the outstretched arm of even the tallest player. That is absolutely untrue. Any player that can dunk can goaltend any shot.
    - tempestn 6y ago
      I think you're misunderstanding the point the author is making. The goaltending rule only prevents blocking shots on their downward trajectory. Blocks on the upward trajectory are still allowed, but they become more difficult as the play becomes more spread out, which happens when longer shots are encouraged.
      - ErikVandeWater 6y ago
        If he stated what you stated I would be misunderstanding.
- ctab 6y ago
  And that is what makes it so disappointing. Dryden -- who is a genius, a brilliant writer, and one of the most accomplished NHL goaltenders ever -- is absolutely wrong on the point that goaltenders should just stay on their knees all game. NHL shooters have no problem hitting the uppermost part of the goal at will, and a goaltender on his knees simply doesn't cover enough of that area. This is a 6'5" goalie in that position (presumably having dropped down from upright after the shot is taken): https://www.1stohiobattery.com/columbus-blue-jackets-news/2018/04/2119/blue-jackets-drop-regular-season-finale-in-nashville-setting-up-first-round-playoff-matchup-with-washington https://www.1stohiobattery.com/columbus-blue-jackets-news/20... If the shooter is 5 or more feet away, and has a couple seconds to set up a shot, and the goaltender is on his knees, it is virtually an automatic goal. Someone employing the strategy Dryden suggests should be the standard would lose every game for their team. This takes away from his other very good commentary about the aesthetics of the game changing.
  - keiferski 6y ago
    Did you even read the article? I don’t think so. He doesn’t claim that goalies should always be on their knees, but rather than it’s common for them to do so, exploring the reasons why.
    - ctab 6y ago
      Of course I read the article. See the paragraph beginning: "Really, the biggest reason for a goalie to get off his knees is that if he doesn’t, people might notice.", and the two paragraphs preceding it.
      - keiferski 6y ago
        In no way does he argue that the goalie should always be on his knees. He says it’s common for some to be, then explores the reasons why that might be the case. That is called good, nuanced writing. It’s an article in the The Atlantic, not a formal proof.
        6y ago

The author makes 2 basic mistakes 1. Suggesting that goalies are nearly equally suited on their knees as on their skates. 2. Forgetting the goaltending rule exists in basketball.

keiferski 6y ago

The article is written by a goalie who has won six Stanley cups.

tempestn 6y ago
Also nothing in the article suggested a misunderstanding of the goaltending rule.
- ErikVandeWater 6y ago
  Here you go: > Only the ball needs to get to the hoop, and in this NBA game, it doesn’t matter whether you are 7 feet tall or 8 feet tall; a ball shot from beyond the 23-foot-9-inch arc will loop over the outstretched arm of even the tallest player. That is absolutely untrue. Any player that can dunk can goaltend any shot.
  - tempestn 6y ago
    I think you're misunderstanding the point the author is making. The goaltending rule only prevents blocking shots on their downward trajectory. Blocks on the upward trajectory are still allowed, but they become more difficult as the play becomes more spread out, which happens when longer shots are encouraged.
    - ErikVandeWater 6y ago
      If he stated what you stated I would be misunderstanding.
ctab 6y ago
And that is what makes it so disappointing. Dryden -- who is a genius, a brilliant writer, and one of the most accomplished NHL goaltenders ever -- is absolutely wrong on the point that goaltenders should just stay on their knees all game. NHL shooters have no problem hitting the uppermost part of the goal at will, and a goaltender on his knees simply doesn't cover enough of that area. This is a 6'5" goalie in that position (presumably having dropped down from upright after the shot is taken): https://www.1stohiobattery.com/columbus-blue-jackets-news/2018/04/2119/blue-jackets-drop-regular-season-finale-in-nashville-setting-up-first-round-playoff-matchup-with-washington https://www.1stohiobattery.com/columbus-blue-jackets-news/20... If the shooter is 5 or more feet away, and has a couple seconds to set up a shot, and the goaltender is on his knees, it is virtually an automatic goal. Someone employing the strategy Dryden suggests should be the standard would lose every game for their team. This takes away from his other very good commentary about the aesthetics of the game changing.
- keiferski 6y ago
  Did you even read the article? I don’t think so. He doesn’t claim that goalies should always be on their knees, but rather than it’s common for them to do so, exploring the reasons why.
  - ctab 6y ago
    Of course I read the article. See the paragraph beginning: "Really, the biggest reason for a goalie to get off his knees is that if he doesn’t, people might notice.", and the two paragraphs preceding it.
    - keiferski 6y ago
      In no way does he argue that the goalie should always be on his knees. He says it’s common for some to be, then explores the reasons why that might be the case. That is called good, nuanced writing. It’s an article in the The Atlantic, not a formal proof.
      - 6y ago