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The lockdowns didn't work because americans were involved and instead of staying home for 2 weeks got in their cars and stood on government steps with guns. Cl

The lockdowns didn't work because americans were involved and instead of staying home for 2 weeks got in their cars and stood on government steps with guns. Clearly when the population realises that "muh freedom" isn't really a valid excuse and just stays put, it works fine (see: australia, new zealand)

babesh 6y ago
False. The outbreaks did not coincide with those protests with guns. Would you blame the BLM protests which were far larger? The last and largest outbreak based on cases seemed to coincide with the holidays. Perhaps you should blame Dr. Fauci for telling people not to wear masks during the first outbreak?
wisdomdata 6y ago
At what cost? we've saved a few 80 year olds, but lost hundreds of younger people via suicide and created a huge long tail of mental health problems along with poor educational outcomes (Australian here).
- boatmansloth 6y ago
  Do you have data the Australian Institute for Health and Welfare doesn't have? https://www.aihw.gov.au/suicide-self-harm-monitoring/data/covid-19 https://www.aihw.gov.au/suicide-self-harm-monitoring/data/co... In NSW suicide fell by 5% last year: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/dec/23/nsw-suicide-rate-falls-by-remarkable-5-in-2020-lifeline-finds https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/dec/23/nsw-s... There was also a dip in Victoria: https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/suicides-in-victoria-dip-despite-fears-pandemic-would-drive-increase-20210118-p56uwp.html https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/suicides-in-vict...
- ElCapitanMarkla 6y ago
  Don’t try brush it off as a few 80 year olds. Over half a million people have needlessly died in the states. How’s the mental well being of those half a million families, how’s the mental well being of the millions more who were sick and thought they were going to die.

babesh 6y ago

False. The outbreaks did not coincide with those protests with guns. Would you blame the BLM protests which were far larger? The last and largest outbreak based on cases seemed to coincide with the holidays. Perhaps you should blame Dr. Fauci for telling people not to wear masks during the first outbreak?

wisdomdata 6y ago

At what cost? we've saved a few 80 year olds, but lost hundreds of younger people via suicide and created a huge long tail of mental health problems along with poor educational outcomes (Australian here).

boatmansloth 6y ago
Do you have data the Australian Institute for Health and Welfare doesn't have? https://www.aihw.gov.au/suicide-self-harm-monitoring/data/covid-19 https://www.aihw.gov.au/suicide-self-harm-monitoring/data/co... In NSW suicide fell by 5% last year: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/dec/23/nsw-suicide-rate-falls-by-remarkable-5-in-2020-lifeline-finds https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/dec/23/nsw-s... There was also a dip in Victoria: https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/suicides-in-victoria-dip-despite-fears-pandemic-would-drive-increase-20210118-p56uwp.html https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/suicides-in-vict...
ElCapitanMarkla 6y ago
Don’t try brush it off as a few 80 year olds. Over half a million people have needlessly died in the states. How’s the mental well being of those half a million families, how’s the mental well being of the millions more who were sick and thought they were going to die.