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So essentially they're collecting net flow data on every citizen. It may be kind of fun to overload their storage by creating a ton of short connections, probab
by collsni 6y ago
So essentially they're collecting net flow data on every citizen. It may be kind of fun to overload their storage by creating a ton of short connections, probably wouldn't be feasible.
- chrisacky 6y agoYour the first comment and I had exactly the same idea. What do you want to bet we've all had the same thinking. As a community we sure like to bend things for sure.
- curiousgal 6y agoI mean if they could get the act to pass I am sure they get storage funding too.
- edrxty 6y agoSo what you're saying is if some people banded together, they could manipulate the storage tech market with the force of a nation state behind them?
- marshmallow_12 6y agoBut for how long will they manage to hang on to it? Here's a laugh if you want https://www.silicon.co.uk/data-storage/database/police-delete-database-350055 https://www.silicon.co.uk/data-storage/database/police-delet...
- tgragnato 6y agoRest sure things like masscan and file sharing will be singled out and excluded from long term storage. If I recall correctly there is a process called massive volume reduction by which you filter out “uninteresting stuff”. It’s not a bad idea, but you’ll need something more sophisticated.
- gruez 6y ago>If I recall correctly there is a process called massive volume reduction by which you filter out “uninteresting stuff”. So all you have to do to avoid surveillance is to make a bunch of connections so the system gets overwhelmed and ignores you?
- lupire 6y agoNo. It drops the junk and tags you as an person of interest.
- jjbinx007 6y agoThen criminals should focus on what that non interesting stuff is likely to be and exploit that. Terrorists (as well as a CIA director) have for years used a simple trick to communicate without leaving suspicious looking metadata: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2012/11/12/heres-the-e-mail-trick-petraeus-and-broadwell-used-to-communicate/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2012/11/12... I find this type of legislation works like DVD copy protection: the innocent and non tech savvy will be disproportionately affected and it won't do anything to deter those with sufficient knowledge.
- worldofmatthew 6y agoA python script to visit random scraped form directory websites or just having it request invaild pages if you want the logging to be least compressable.
- jimmygrapes 6y agoDo want ISPs to charge by the minute again? Because that's how we get there.
- worldofmatthew 6y agoIf ISPs tried than the public would pressure the government to drop the law. I calculate with 50% reduction from compression (After the required back-ups to comply with the law the number will be much worse for the ISP). That somone on VM 500Mbits using less than 10% of their connection for this could increase their log size by 200GB per day or 73TB over the 12 months.
- lupire 6y agoThen you get throttled by your ISP
- phendrenad2 6y agoThen people move to Germany for the good internet.
- brokenmachine 6y agoAs a side effect, then those people will be living in a country that already has laws against this kind of thing... You know, because of the... unpleasantness. But no worries, you go ahead with what you're doing, UK. Good job. Maybe IBM can offer some technical experience in this area.
- riknox 6y agoI'm not sure if this is referring to the privacy laws or the internet itself, but the internet connectivity in Germany is dreadful in my experience. Capacity is at its limits, to the point that some flats don't have access to the internet.
- citrin_ru 6y agoThis system likely will be paid by the state, so the more traffic flows internet users will generate, the more taxpayers will pay.