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To add to that, role clarity is inversely proportional to the seniority.

ghaff 6y ago
I got hired on for a position once where the job description was retroactively written for me after I came in for an interview. I suppose in retrospect that means it was written in a way that it probably wasn't a good fit for most people.
- jcims 6y ago
  That seems a little odd, maybe they had some KPIs around hiring/fit or something and wanted to fluff their numbers.
  - ghaff 6y ago
    I'm not going to be specific, but at a certain level, companies will hire people that execs know/have worked with and figure out the best role for them.
    - jcims 6y ago
      Oh yeah, totally, I just never saw anyone update a rec to suit. Maybe I just never paid attention. :)
      - ghaff 6y ago
        I don't think there was a rec, or at least a published one :-)
    - goatinaboat 6y ago
      at a certain level, companies will hire people that execs know/have worked with In Wales we call this “jobs for the boyos”.
      - ghaff 6y ago
        "Old boys network" in the US. Companies do need to guard against excessively hiring only people with the right connections. On the other hand, personal networks are certainly a thing and companies rely heavily on referrals for hiring. I have to confess that I haven't gotten a job by applying blind/via a recruiter for 35 years.
    - vishnugupta 6y ago
      > but at a certain level, companies will hire people that execs know/have worked with This happens more frequently than people realise. Execs depend on, to state the obvious, a loyal next line leaders to get work done. And more often than not newly hired execs are under pressure to begin showing results in about 8 months or so. Hiring their loyalists gives them a very good chance of showing positive impact. Otherwise they need to wrangle with existing reports and peers to win their trust and loyalty which is a time consuming process. I've seen this happen almost at all the places I've worked in

I got hired on for a position once where the job description was retroactively written for me after I came in for an interview. I suppose in retrospect that means it was written in a way that it probably wasn't a good fit for most people.

jcims 6y ago
That seems a little odd, maybe they had some KPIs around hiring/fit or something and wanted to fluff their numbers.
- ghaff 6y ago
  I'm not going to be specific, but at a certain level, companies will hire people that execs know/have worked with and figure out the best role for them.
  - jcims 6y ago
    Oh yeah, totally, I just never saw anyone update a rec to suit. Maybe I just never paid attention. :)
    - ghaff 6y ago
      I don't think there was a rec, or at least a published one :-)
  - goatinaboat 6y ago
    at a certain level, companies will hire people that execs know/have worked with In Wales we call this “jobs for the boyos”.
    - ghaff 6y ago
      "Old boys network" in the US. Companies do need to guard against excessively hiring only people with the right connections. On the other hand, personal networks are certainly a thing and companies rely heavily on referrals for hiring. I have to confess that I haven't gotten a job by applying blind/via a recruiter for 35 years.
  - vishnugupta 6y ago
    > but at a certain level, companies will hire people that execs know/have worked with This happens more frequently than people realise. Execs depend on, to state the obvious, a loyal next line leaders to get work done. And more often than not newly hired execs are under pressure to begin showing results in about 8 months or so. Hiring their loyalists gives them a very good chance of showing positive impact. Otherwise they need to wrangle with existing reports and peers to win their trust and loyalty which is a time consuming process. I've seen this happen almost at all the places I've worked in