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Digital Ocean has spaces with unlimited uploads, 250gB + (0.02/gb), 1TB of outbound transfer all at $5/mo. That seems way cheaper than this. For backups and l

Digital Ocean has spaces with unlimited uploads, 250gB + (0.02/gb), 1TB of outbound transfer all at $5/mo. That seems way cheaper than this. For backups and large, long term storage, AWS has Glacier, that's really really cheap.

jjeaff 6y ago
$0.02/gb compared to $0.005 with b2. So not really in the same ballpark as far as price.
- preommr 6y ago
  That's just the storage cost per GB, if you have any kind of serious throughput, then bandwith costs make it more expensive.
  - brightball 6y ago
    Aren't they in that free bandwidth alliance with Cloudflare?
    - divbzero 6y ago
      Yes, it looks like Backblaze is part of that free bandwidth alliance. [1] Thank you, I was not aware of this policy. [1]: https://www.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-alliance/backblaze/ https://www.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-alliance/backblaze/
      - preommr 6y ago
        Yea, that changes things, that's a pretty good deal then. Especially because Cloudflare's pricing is "smoother" and detached from any one service.
    - atYevP 6y ago
      Yev from Backblaze here -> yes we are!
      - pcnix 6y ago
        Thank you for being our Yev!
dr-smooth 6y ago
Wait until you see how much it costs to retrieve your entire backup from Glacier.
- kenmacd 6y ago
  I guess it depends on how likely you are to need to do that. Looking at b2 vs glacier deep it seems as long as you don't need the data more than every 2y that glacier still works out cheaper even with the high bandwidth costs.
  - dx034 6y ago
    But glacier also has minimum storage duration. With S3, you'll need to use a tiered system unless you want to store all backups for several months (often that's only the case for weekly or monthly backups). In the end, S3 can be cheaper but you have to make a lot of assumptions beforehand. Backblaze is cheap enough to just throw everything in there and work with their lifecycle rules. You don't need to make assumptions about download volumes or storage duration beforehand (esp if you can retrieve via cloudflare).
ddorian43 6y ago
If you ever need those backups, your company will fail from the receipt to receive them. For Digital Ocean, please look that their pricing is higher in both bandwidth & storage.
caymanjim 6y ago
I'm a big fan of Digital Ocean and run a bunch of droplets. B2 is way cheaper than Spaces for storage (1/4 the price). I tried using Spaces anyway, because I wanted something with faster throughput for streaming video, but Spaces was even slower than B2, even within the same Digital Ocean datacenter. All these S3 clone storage systems are clearly throttled, and there seems to be at least soft collusion to keep the bandwidth about the same between them, and just enough to prevent video streaming. I'll go sit in the corner and adjust my tinfoil hat now.
killingtime74 6y ago
Linode has the same and allows using bandwidth pooled across all instances
mekster 6y ago
I wonder if this still applies about performance comparison. https://github.com/gilbertchen/cloud-storage-comparison https://github.com/gilbertchen/cloud-storage-comparison
- dx034 6y ago
  Backblaze downloads are $.01/GB, not $.02/GB as stated there. And via Cloudflare they're free. That makes a big difference vs. AWS where you have no chance to get that data to another provider for free (unless you have a very special deal with them).
mike503 6y ago
Spaces was not fully compatible with S3 at one point. It was nearly impossible to download your entire bucket when it was huge. Rclone was able to, but it was horribly slow. AWS CLI would only grab up to 1000 items. It seems like they did finally fix that though. I’m actually a huge fan of Bunny now. The CDN piece is about as cheap as it gets (for any utility based service), it’s optimizer and other things work well, and it works seamlessly with their storage system too. Which is super cheap itself, allows you to control how much it’s replicated (and where) - just waiting for them to deliver S3 compatibility so all the existing tools that exist work, or some other type of CLI tool.

jjeaff 6y ago

$0.02/gb compared to $0.005 with b2. So not really in the same ballpark as far as price.

preommr 6y ago
That's just the storage cost per GB, if you have any kind of serious throughput, then bandwith costs make it more expensive.
- brightball 6y ago
  Aren't they in that free bandwidth alliance with Cloudflare?
  - divbzero 6y ago
    Yes, it looks like Backblaze is part of that free bandwidth alliance. [1] Thank you, I was not aware of this policy. [1]: https://www.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-alliance/backblaze/ https://www.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-alliance/backblaze/
    - preommr 6y ago
      Yea, that changes things, that's a pretty good deal then. Especially because Cloudflare's pricing is "smoother" and detached from any one service.
  - atYevP 6y ago
    Yev from Backblaze here -> yes we are!
    - pcnix 6y ago
      Thank you for being our Yev!

dr-smooth 6y ago

Wait until you see how much it costs to retrieve your entire backup from Glacier.

kenmacd 6y ago
I guess it depends on how likely you are to need to do that. Looking at b2 vs glacier deep it seems as long as you don't need the data more than every 2y that glacier still works out cheaper even with the high bandwidth costs.
- dx034 6y ago
  But glacier also has minimum storage duration. With S3, you'll need to use a tiered system unless you want to store all backups for several months (often that's only the case for weekly or monthly backups). In the end, S3 can be cheaper but you have to make a lot of assumptions beforehand. Backblaze is cheap enough to just throw everything in there and work with their lifecycle rules. You don't need to make assumptions about download volumes or storage duration beforehand (esp if you can retrieve via cloudflare).

ddorian43 6y ago

If you ever need those backups, your company will fail from the receipt to receive them. For Digital Ocean, please look that their pricing is higher in both bandwidth & storage.

caymanjim 6y ago

I'm a big fan of Digital Ocean and run a bunch of droplets. B2 is way cheaper than Spaces for storage (1/4 the price). I tried using Spaces anyway, because I wanted something with faster throughput for streaming video, but Spaces was even slower than B2, even within the same Digital Ocean datacenter. All these S3 clone storage systems are clearly throttled, and there seems to be at least soft collusion to keep the bandwidth about the same between them, and just enough to prevent video streaming. I'll go sit in the corner and adjust my tinfoil hat now.

killingtime74 6y ago

Linode has the same and allows using bandwidth pooled across all instances

mekster 6y ago

I wonder if this still applies about performance comparison. https://github.com/gilbertchen/cloud-storage-comparison https://github.com/gilbertchen/cloud-storage-comparison

dx034 6y ago
Backblaze downloads are $.01/GB, not $.02/GB as stated there. And via Cloudflare they're free. That makes a big difference vs. AWS where you have no chance to get that data to another provider for free (unless you have a very special deal with them).

mike503 6y ago

Spaces was not fully compatible with S3 at one point. It was nearly impossible to download your entire bucket when it was huge. Rclone was able to, but it was horribly slow. AWS CLI would only grab up to 1000 items. It seems like they did finally fix that though. I’m actually a huge fan of Bunny now. The CDN piece is about as cheap as it gets (for any utility based service), it’s optimizer and other things work well, and it works seamlessly with their storage system too. Which is super cheap itself, allows you to control how much it’s replicated (and where) - just waiting for them to deliver S3 compatibility so all the existing tools that exist work, or some other type of CLI tool.