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or physics is broken.

beaconstudios 6y ago
so we should be more willing to hold onto materialism than science? Or are you suggesting that quantum mechanics is a bad model?
- Nbox9 6y ago
  Quantum mechanics might be a bad model, but over the last century it’s become less controversial and more accepted in the scientific community. The last century has produced more scientists and mathematicians than any other century. I can see a few possible situations. 1. Quantum Mechanics is a fairly accurate representation of the world, or at least about as good as we can come up with given our current state of technology. 2. Quantum Mechanics is a fairly inaccurate representation of the world. 2a. Incorrect theories dominating for centuries is a natural consequence of the scientific method and trying to determine the nature of the universe. 2b. Incorrect theories dominating for centuries is a result of an imperfect implementation of the scientific method in our modern society. 2c. The scientific method is incapable of providing humans with a true and accurate understanding of the world.
andagainagain 6y ago
Or physics is perfectly fine, and so is materialism. Quantum weirdness, remember, is defined by physics. It's tested by physics. And it's perfectly compatible with materialism. The problem is in people's understanding. Full disclosure - I'm no subscribing to finish reading the article. But what it sounds like is "if we change our philosophy to match physics, physics is easy". Quantum physics has always made sense. The only issue was that it wasn't intuitive.
- eigenket 6y ago
  I kinda agree with this, one thing I'd add is that what is "intuitive" is what matches our intuition, honed over millions of years to...survive wild animal attacks, throw spears accurately and not fall out of trees. There isn't really any reason to expect physics to match our intuition, when our intuition isn't built for dealing with the sorts of things modern physics deals with.
rafaelvasco 6y ago
It will always be. Science is by definition always incomplete. Once you know how Everything in the Universe works, you already transcended Science and became a God.

so we should be more willing to hold onto materialism than science? Or are you suggesting that quantum mechanics is a bad model?

Nbox9 6y ago
Quantum mechanics might be a bad model, but over the last century it’s become less controversial and more accepted in the scientific community. The last century has produced more scientists and mathematicians than any other century. I can see a few possible situations. 1. Quantum Mechanics is a fairly accurate representation of the world, or at least about as good as we can come up with given our current state of technology. 2. Quantum Mechanics is a fairly inaccurate representation of the world. 2a. Incorrect theories dominating for centuries is a natural consequence of the scientific method and trying to determine the nature of the universe. 2b. Incorrect theories dominating for centuries is a result of an imperfect implementation of the scientific method in our modern society. 2c. The scientific method is incapable of providing humans with a true and accurate understanding of the world.

andagainagain 6y ago

Or physics is perfectly fine, and so is materialism. Quantum weirdness, remember, is defined by physics. It's tested by physics. And it's perfectly compatible with materialism. The problem is in people's understanding. Full disclosure - I'm no subscribing to finish reading the article. But what it sounds like is "if we change our philosophy to match physics, physics is easy". Quantum physics has always made sense. The only issue was that it wasn't intuitive.

eigenket 6y ago
I kinda agree with this, one thing I'd add is that what is "intuitive" is what matches our intuition, honed over millions of years to...survive wild animal attacks, throw spears accurately and not fall out of trees. There isn't really any reason to expect physics to match our intuition, when our intuition isn't built for dealing with the sorts of things modern physics deals with.

rafaelvasco 6y ago

It will always be. Science is by definition always incomplete. Once you know how Everything in the Universe works, you already transcended Science and became a God.