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The Netflix I pay for is currently used by: Me, Mom, Dad, Grandparents, GF, GFs Mom. Other than myself and my GF, most of the people on this list watch someth

• eatbitseveryday 6y ago
  > Currently, they get approximately $240 per year from me and my family. If everyone has to create their own account, that number goes up to $1200. Typo of extra zero? Is this US dollars? The most expensive digital plan is 17.99 USD / month. With discs, few $ more. USD 240/month is excessive.
  • bussierem 6y ago
    > $240 per year from me and my family
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  • jjk166 6y ago
    per year
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  • NeutronStar 6y ago
    I'd suggest you to reread his comment as he's saying it is per year.
  • 4ggr0 6y ago
    As others already pointed out, I wrote that it's per year. But I quickly looked at it, the amounts I mentioned are even too low. Converted to USD, I pay $23 per month. So $276 for one person, or $1380 for my use-case. Keep in mind that not everyone is from the US :)
• RHSeeger 6y ago
  What is it that you think is appropriate for you to be pissed off about? You pay for Netflix for you and your household, not for anyone that happens to be related to you. Has that ever not been the case?
  • backtoyoujim 6y ago
    What exactly is Netflix pissed about ? Their stock is over $500 a share. In 2020 Netflix has positive cashflow of $1.9 billion. What are they pissed about ?
    • 535188B17C93743 6y ago
      Stock owners.
    • viklove 6y ago
      It's never enough
      • stevegalla 6y ago
        I won’t be shocked when they start introducing ads, reduced ads accounts, and premium content subscriptions.
    • ALittleLight 6y ago
      Netflix's share price is ~80 times earnings. Their investors expect them to grow.
    • lmarcos 6y ago
      They have to grow.
  • fishtacos 6y ago
    Perhaps because they've doubled their streaming service's cost, reduced their content amount and availability, and are now properly warning they are going to be cracking down on geographically distant usage by users of the same account. At this point I'm paying 20 USD/m for Netflix, roommate for HBOMax, friend's password (via reciprocal sharing) for Disney+, and our online TV service, which my elderly disabled mother can't go without. The post-cable/satellite TV revolution has tripled my costs from what it used to be.
• macksd 6y ago
  The number wouldn't go up to $1200 - most of your family would get by just fine without Netflix because it simply isn't worth what it costs to them. The needle will move on Netflix's revenue and subscriber count, and their costs will slow down. And largely the people affected will forget about this. The really fair way to price this is by concurrent viewers, independent of location, and they already have that feature. I too have my in-laws logged into my Disney+ account which they never use. But if they watch my kids, and my kids want to pick up where they left off on the Bluey episode, it's both my profile they need and my responsibility to pay for it.
  • pbronez 6y ago
    I also have this use case and think it's really important. When I was a kid you could take a favorite VHS or DVD with you. Now you take your subscription. Sure, I guess you could take a phyusical authorized device (e.g. an iPad) with you, then screen cast it. But that requires grandma to figure out screen casting. And I'm trusting my kid with a $300 device instead of a $15 media artifact. Lame.
    • macksd 6y ago
      I'm actually curious if the physical device looks any more innocent in Netflix's future policies than straight-up credential sharing. It's still coming from a new IP.
      • tomjen3 6y ago
        If I have a Netflix account and I (post-pandemic) go to an ANB rental I would be pissed if my account didn't work there. I subscribed the first month Netflix came to Denmark (my country) and I kept the subscription up for a decade until they started to degrade the stream too much. They fixed that and I eventually came back but stuff like that would turn me of for good.
        • vondur 6y ago
          Wow, I’ve never heard of Netflix having reduced the quality of their streaming. When did this start happening?
• PragmaticPulp 6y ago
  > Should my grandma pay $240 per year, to watch two movies I recommend to her (and are ONLY watchable on Netflix)? This seems more like an edge case. If grandma is only watching a couple movies per year, would Netflix even bother throwing up a warning message? If she didn’t have her own profile in your account, it would be difficult for Netflix to even know if this was a shared account or if you were just logging in at her house during an occasional visit. They’re not rolling this out to go after grandma watching a couple movies per year. It’s more likely that they’re targeting the heavy users who share a single account. People who would have their own subscription in a heartbeat if they could no longer exploit the shared account loophole.
  • 4ggr0 6y ago
    You actually bring up a good point. I thought that they'll just show this message to everyone, but maybe you're right and they analyze the usage somehow to only notify people who are abusing it. Else, how do you handle people going on business trips and vacations?
  • betwixthewires 6y ago
    >If grandma is only watching a couple movies per year, would Netflix even bother throwing up a warning message? Yes. In every scenario that a company could cut cost, they've done it. If they haven't done it yet, they will do it. Absolutely 100% Netflix is going to cut grandma off. What's it to Netflix to throw up a message saying "little Timmy, if you're there in the room with grandma then it shouldn't be a problem for you to enter the 6 digit code we just sent to your phone." That's what they're trialing now. Next you're going to have to enter a code even if you don't share your account just in case or due to some error or other excuse when it becomes a PR problem, such as when Netflix bans a customer and cancels their account because boyfriend was trying to watch a movie while girlfriend was at work and didn't see the code on her phone until it was too late, which is also inevitably going to happen, and you're going to read a reddit thread about it that has a score of 35k and 10x gold and Netflix is going to formally apologize for the error and reinstate her account and then it is going to become par for the course after that. That's where this is going, bad UX all round because some middle management can make a bonus by cutting costs, or because Netflix's revenue is falling and they just don't want to admit the cause and refuse to correct the error, like IBM and every other failing company did.
• sandworm101 6y ago
  I think that you are upset about the subscription model not serving your use case. Pay-per-view is probably more appropriate for those who only want to watch a couple movies every month, put ppv isn't available. Customers instead share their accounts with family members. It is dirty rotten piracy and anyone doing it is stealing bread from the mouths of babes, but that's what happens when the legitimate system fails to offer the delivery model that the customer wants. My story: I have amazon prime, but no proper screens that can watch it (linux) and there isn't much on prime that I care to watch anyway. So my parents in another state use the account. Should amazon care? They are still only streaming to one IP but the reality is that we are all pirates.
  • mannerheim 6y ago
    Hm, that's bizarre, I can watch Amazon Prime on Linux.
    • woodrowbarlow 6y ago
      you have (or your distro has) installed the widevine drm plugins for firefox (or whatever browser) that are included by default on windows and mac os. these are proprietary plugins, but some convenience-oriented distros distros include them because many users expect them. some linux users are on linux because they want to eliminate proprietary software from their computer altogether. which means no access to un-broken drm media.
    • 4ggr0 6y ago
      I think it depends on how mainstream your distro is, or maybe on what browser you use. When I used Linux, every streaming platform ever told me that my browser wasn't compatible to stream.
    • sandworm101 6y ago
      >> I can watch Amazon Prime on Linux. Everything and anything it possible on linux. The question is whether I want to bother. I could probably disable my browser's security features and get it working, install some proprietary whatever, but it isn't worth than hassle imho. I've got better stuff to watch than netflix/amazon junk. Whenever I have a hour to kill my first choice tends to be the BBC.
• eCa 6y ago
  From that use case, what is likely to happen is everyone having their own account but being more active in canceling and rejoining. I doubt Netflix revenue will increase to much above $240 in the end.
  • 4ggr0 6y ago
    Probably, yeah. At least my grandparents and my mom would probably not get their own accounts.
• BrandonSmith 6y ago
  > Don't really know what I should think about this to be honest... All subscription services must account for some form of average use. High usage customers are offset by low usage. Thus, it is likely with so many people on your account that others are subsidizing your account's usage. Nevertheless, I don't think Netflix cares about your low usage family members, like your grandmother. They care about your high usage family and want to get them in their own account. Netflix already has subscription tiers that varies the number of screens that can simultaneously watch or device downloads. Perhaps Netflix could help honest people be honest by creating tiers with modest increases for different households. Maybe $5 for each additional household? I am sure they have discussed and don't yet have a great way of enforcing such. One option could be true "sub-accounts" where the sub-account pays for the bump of $5 with a credit card that must be tied to a different address?
• fao_ 6y ago
  > Don't really know what I should think about this to be honest... Ultimately, piracy is the only remaining option. Because the company has decided it's going to brand you a pirate anyway. It costs maybe 11$/mo to hire a seedbox running plex that can store whatever media you would want to watch. While it's not next-day or same-day in most cases, in my experience it covers basically everything you would want to watch, along with collaborative watching, which is a perk netflix does not have.
  • mxxx 6y ago
    Don’t know if I really buy the “piracy is the only option” line any more. It was for years. But you can now legally pay for the content you want, you just don’t like the price.
    • ShizzleNauts 6y ago
      Free is the best price, especially for broke a college kid. It's too tempting to be honest. Streaming a torrent stops me from ever paying for a streaming service.
      • betwixthewires 6y ago
        I'm actually proud to say I've never paid for a streaming service of any kind at all, or cable TV for that matter And I'm not a young kid. I've bought albums and VHS tapes and DVDs before. Rented movies. But never once paid for a subscription service of any kind. And I never will. Of course I don't "consume content" (I hate that term, what's with PR and marketing people reducing everything to a business case?) so much anymore, so I'm not quite the pirate I once was. In all honesty, if I'm going to sit in front of a screen, I'd rather talk to people like you on the internet than watch the super strong american hero defeat the bad guy for the gazillionth time, except this time they are sure to remind me that I'm a bad bad man for some belief I have.
    • aeternum 6y ago
      You could always legally pay. The price was quite high because you needed to pay for cable + premium channels in addition to renting at blockbuster video. However with all the streaming services it's not just as high if not higher if you want everything. Not to mention the crazy Disney fee ($30+ / movie in addition to the monthly subscription). It's great as a DIS shareholder, but pretty terrible for their fans.
• dragonwriter 6y ago
  > In the end, these streaming platforms are probably right that you shouldn't be allowed to share accounts if you don't live under the same roof How many individual users are allowed on an account and whether they need to have any particular relationship (residential or otherwise) are completely arbitrary decisions.
  • eyelidlessness 6y ago
    And the alternative is what?
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• Fire-Dragon-DoL 6y ago
  Sorry but... For the 2 movies, can't she pay for only 2 months, presuming the recommendation is given in different months? A movie ticket costs more than netflix. And i'm not a fan if subscriptions.