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and to clarify on the above reply, it's widely suspected that Amazon snoop at data hosted on AWS, so they can make/sell competing products that are selling well

by grecy 6y ago

and to clarify on the above reply, it's widely suspected that Amazon snoop at data hosted on AWS, so they can make/sell competing products that are selling well based on what they learn from snooping. So basically any business that makes or sells anything that Amazon may possibly make or sell in the future doesn't want to touch AWS.

gketuma 6y ago
Pretty much this: https://twitter.com/Shopify/status/1367929509354299392 https://twitter.com/Shopify/status/1367929509354299392
sofixa 6y ago
That cannot possibly be true. Do you imagine the fallout if it came out ( and how would in not, thousands of people would have passed through, one disgruntled employee is enough) ? AWS would lose most customers within a few years, Amazon.com as well ( disgusted buyers and sellers), there'd be lawsuit everywhere. I really don't think anyone in Amazon is stupid enough to risk a trillion dollar business for some potential competitive advantage on whatever sold on Amazon.com
- purerandomness 6y ago
  Amazon has regularly launched products with their "Amazon Basics" brand, copying well-selling 3rd-party products sold on Amazon.com, always a few bucks cheaper. [1] What makes you think it would be different with AWS? [1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-scooped-up-data-from-its-own-sellers-to-launch-competing-products-11587650015 https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-scooped-up-data-from-its...
  - KptMarchewa 6y ago
    Are you really comparing making knockoff products with stealing their consumers data?
    - purerandomness 6y ago
      I doubt that actually looking into EC2 instances (which AWS would never do, "pinkie promise") would even be necessary. Metadata about the company's deployed infrastructure would totally suffice to derive enough business insights to launch a "knockoff product", as you call it.
- perryizgr8 6y ago
  The fallout is already in effect, if you read the above comments.

by grecy 6y ago

gketuma 6y ago

Pretty much this: https://twitter.com/Shopify/status/1367929509354299392 https://twitter.com/Shopify/status/1367929509354299392

sofixa 6y ago

That cannot possibly be true. Do you imagine the fallout if it came out ( and how would in not, thousands of people would have passed through, one disgruntled employee is enough) ? AWS would lose most customers within a few years, Amazon.com as well ( disgusted buyers and sellers), there'd be lawsuit everywhere. I really don't think anyone in Amazon is stupid enough to risk a trillion dollar business for some potential competitive advantage on whatever sold on Amazon.com

purerandomness 6y ago
Amazon has regularly launched products with their "Amazon Basics" brand, copying well-selling 3rd-party products sold on Amazon.com, always a few bucks cheaper. [1] What makes you think it would be different with AWS? [1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-scooped-up-data-from-its-own-sellers-to-launch-competing-products-11587650015 https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-scooped-up-data-from-its...
- KptMarchewa 6y ago
  Are you really comparing making knockoff products with stealing their consumers data?
  - purerandomness 6y ago
    I doubt that actually looking into EC2 instances (which AWS would never do, "pinkie promise") would even be necessary. Metadata about the company's deployed infrastructure would totally suffice to derive enough business insights to launch a "knockoff product", as you call it.
perryizgr8 6y ago
The fallout is already in effect, if you read the above comments.