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Off-topic, but is there a reason for small companies/projects to use Oracle Cloud? Are their prices and feature set competitive against AWS, Azure and GCP for t
by haolez 6y ago
Off-topic, but is there a reason for small companies/projects to use Oracle Cloud? Are their prices and feature set competitive against AWS, Azure and GCP for this audience?
- Macha 6y agoMy understanding is that the three reasons people use Oracle Cloud are: 1. You're valuable enough of a marketing point that they're willing to give you insane discounts to reel you in (see Zoom) 2. You're locked in enough on other Oracle technologies and they've raised your license fees but coincidentally it comes with a big bundle discount if you also use Oracle cloud, or maybe you just failed an audit and Oracle said the problem will go away if you buy some cloud services. 3. For really small scale (like some dude on r/selfhosted scale, not even startup scale), they offer a free tier that doesn't have a time limit
- philliphaydon 6y agoNice, 2 VMs for free. Might put my little side project there for a while. Currently on 2 nano vm's on AWS.
- philistine 6y agowe're talking very few dollars here. In my experience, the only thing making me go above a dollar a month on AWS is the storage on the VMs.
- luhn 6y agoTheir prices are very competitive. Cheaper than AWS and Azure by a fairly large margin.
- Macha 6y agoDoes anyone pay list price for AWS? Either you're small enough to avail of startup credits etc. or you're big enough to negotiate a personalised discount
- Aperocky 6y agoIf you know what you're doing, and knows a better part of the AWS services, the discount you'll get just by knowing what you're doing is probably bigger at that point. Cloud native can go to either extreme cost wise, and it's very dependent on good engineering (which, unfortunately, is the exception not the norm).
- tgsovlerkhgsel 6y agoI looked at traffic pricing (the most outrageous item among the big three cloud providers). Outbound traffic from US/Europe is $0.0085 USD per GB. That's roughly an order of magnitude cheaper. Also, 10 TB free will be enough for many small use cases. The billing based on source instead of destination also makes the cost a bit more predictable. That's just list price, of course, and it's still well above e.g. Hetzner, but it's a reasonable price.
- toyg 6y agoThis is Oracle we’re talking about. The minute they get a significant foothold, prices are guaranteed to skyrocket.
- Aperocky 6y agoBiased opinion: Having worked with Oracle products before, I'm not willing to touch anything from Oracle.
- Guest42 6y agoThe only time i kind of liked their products was when the corporation spent 1.5 million on the fastest database I’ve ever seen.
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- whitepoplar 6y agoDetails pls?
- Guest42 6y agoIt was for an enterprise web app (.net) that was used to process seemingly millions of applications per month which would then pull in a whole ton of external data.
- tmpz22 6y agoWhat made it "fast"? Were your workloads properly optimized previously?
- Guest42 6y agoI forget the exact specs but it had close to 200 cores and a team of highly paid dbas that had optimized every aspect. Even the worst of queries would come back instantly.
- covermydonkey 6y agoI can second this. We had a database growing by around 200GB of relevant data per month. While I'm not a fan of Oracle having worked there long ago, that database was unbelievably fast. They moved to MySQL years later and it required a much much bigger tin after being heavily optimized.
- hansor 6y agoOne word: PRICE. In the end of the day this is THE cheapest cloud available if you just want few VMs with database and under 10TB of traffic monthly. Personal opinion: it is much easier to manage than AWS.