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I turned the ads off in my LG TV, took 5 minutes and now it behaves exactly as a dumb TV would to my eyes. I’m surprised by this community’s refusal to spend e

I turned the ads off in my LG TV, took 5 minutes and now it behaves exactly as a dumb TV would to my eyes. I’m surprised by this community’s refusal to spend even a small amount of time hacking on their TV. Maybe you think it should “just” work, but when is that ever the case?

progman32 6y ago
My TVs "just" worked from the late 1980s until 2020, which is when I downgraded to a smart tv.
sodality2 6y ago
Because 70% of the population will never bother doing that. And then it creeps higher, as people get used to it. "Sure it's opt out, that means it's not forced" is a horrible argument for an anti-consumer move. Wait until IP's are hardcoded and ads can't be turned off, on any consumer TV, because there's no more demand for dumb ones, and it maximizes profit.
- TameAntelope 6y ago
  We've got folks here declaring they'd march into the store they bought their TV from and demand a refund. That's not a very hacker mindset, is my point. Also, technically speaking, what you've constructed is a fallacy. When something like what you described happens, nobody's going to use "but you were okay with not-this before, therefore you must be okay with this new thing!" I'll march into Best Buy right with you when I can't turn it off, but as long as I can, I'm probably just going to do that and move on with my life.
  - sodality2 6y ago
    >I'll march into Best Buy right with you when I can't turn it off, but as long as I can, I'm probably just going to do that and move on with my life. I mean, yeah, I did too, but I'm also writing letters to my reps for the people who don't know how to do that. >Also, technically speaking, what you've constructed is a fallacy. When something like what you described happens, nobody's going to use "but you were okay with not-this before, therefore you must be okay with this new thing!" I'm not saying you'd be okay with it, in fact I think your view is pretty reasonable. Personally I want to stop this sort of thing from being on by default, personalized tracking on nearly every TV, etc.

progman32 6y ago

My TVs "just" worked from the late 1980s until 2020, which is when I downgraded to a smart tv.

sodality2 6y ago

Because 70% of the population will never bother doing that. And then it creeps higher, as people get used to it. "Sure it's opt out, that means it's not forced" is a horrible argument for an anti-consumer move. Wait until IP's are hardcoded and ads can't be turned off, on any consumer TV, because there's no more demand for dumb ones, and it maximizes profit.

TameAntelope 6y ago
We've got folks here declaring they'd march into the store they bought their TV from and demand a refund. That's not a very hacker mindset, is my point. Also, technically speaking, what you've constructed is a fallacy. When something like what you described happens, nobody's going to use "but you were okay with not-this before, therefore you must be okay with this new thing!" I'll march into Best Buy right with you when I can't turn it off, but as long as I can, I'm probably just going to do that and move on with my life.
- sodality2 6y ago
  >I'll march into Best Buy right with you when I can't turn it off, but as long as I can, I'm probably just going to do that and move on with my life. I mean, yeah, I did too, but I'm also writing letters to my reps for the people who don't know how to do that. >Also, technically speaking, what you've constructed is a fallacy. When something like what you described happens, nobody's going to use "but you were okay with not-this before, therefore you must be okay with this new thing!" I'm not saying you'd be okay with it, in fact I think your view is pretty reasonable. Personally I want to stop this sort of thing from being on by default, personalized tracking on nearly every TV, etc.