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I've never put a TV on my WiFi. That strikes me as an obviously bad idea. I guess people use the terrible built-in apps? It just seems like a series of poor cho
by Guzba 6y ago
I've never put a TV on my WiFi. That strikes me as an obviously bad idea. I guess people use the terrible built-in apps? It just seems like a series of poor choices to me. Crazy though that an expensive LG CX OLED would do that. I figured at least if you paid more for the TV it would show some tiny level of respect for the owner but clearly not.
I know the various streaming sticks people use instead show ads too probably if it isn't an Apple TV but at least it is somewhat quarantined. Pretty crazy how antagonistic things are getting.
- bin_bash 6y agoMy LG TV recently updated and gave me AirPlay 2 so it’s not all bad
- cosmotic 6y agoThe LG versions of all the apps I've used are much better because it allows for cursor control and I feel it more reliably leads to HDR and 4k content.
- notyourday 6y agoThat's today. Who knows what is going to happen in 6 months. Edit: there are a lot of people with other smart TVs that progressively got more and more broken applications.
- lame-robot-hoax 6y agoIt’s beneficial to use the built in apps on the OLEDs as they automatically play a screensaver when they notice content has been paused over a certain period of time. As well, no need to enable HDR etc for whatever device you are using instead of the built in apps. I just now setup my LG CX to run through NextDNS to block any ads because of this. Took only about five minutes.
- 1MoreThing 6y agoIME, both Apple TV and Amazon Fire stick devices do this too.
- mav3rick 6y agoThe Apple TV app is horrendous on LG. No HBO Max as well. I agree it's way nicer to have native apps.
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- Daho0n 6y agoThis doesn't always work. Some devices use a hardcoded DNS IP. Like Chromecast. Luckily LG doesn't do this.
- adriancr 6y agoJust block anything going out on port 53 outside the network and keep a dns sever on the network. (useful to block known tls dns servers like cloudflares 1.1.1.1 as well) That is sufficient for samsung from my experience. (it does try 8.8.8.8 on its own if my ad blocking server rejects requests) It still doesn't know DNS-over-TLS but if I start seeing ads I'll disconnect it entirely.
- nawgz 6y agoI thought the same and bought an Apple TV. That thing sucks. Turns out, Roku is way better. With respect to "terrible built-in apps", Apple TV has plenty of those. Netflix, Twitch, sports apps, streaming apps, all way better and more usable on the Roku than the Apple TV. Even after all this time with Apple TV remote, the UX is terrible even if the remote is decent
- setpatchaddress 6y agoGenuine question: what's better about the Netflix app? Haven't used Roku. Seems decent on Apple TV. What really sucks on Apple TV is the YouTube app. It may be Google's single least competent publicly available software engineering. edited to clarify question
- nawgz 6y ago> what's better about the Netflix app I can use it with the same remote as I turn my TV on with. In all honesty, these things all are just feature parity, they perform the exact same between the two devices, but I really feel like the UX of fast-forwarding, rewinding etc is completely MIA on Apple TV and therefore it isn't really superior to the native applications, despite the $200 price point
- nomel 6y ago> I can use it with the same remote as I turn my TV on with. Any modern TV will let the connected turn it on and off with HDMI-CEC. For Apple TV, you just use the volume or whatever button to turn it on, then hold the home button and tap sleep to turn it off. Roku supports this, too.
- nawgz 6y agoHaha, sure, thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, I hate using the Apple TV remote, so I’ll stick to the classic UX on my roku remote
- nickthegreek 6y ago
- madaxe_again 6y agoIt would strike me as a bad idea if I gave a tiny damn that LG know that I watch garbage on YouTube and Netflix. At some level, you’re ultimately giving your data to someone, so in my case, I use the built in apps on my entry level €300 LG TV. Works great, nice picture, 50” - and I don’t know if the ads are a US thing, as I’ve never seen one. Maybe it’s because I’ve never used it for TV, or perhaps because it sits behind double NAT, or maybe they just haven’t rolled out in this market (Portugal) yet - but honestly, I don’t mind being the product for an absolutely dirt cheap and very respectable for the money screen.
- SkyPuncher 6y ago> I guess people use the terrible built-in apps? At the end of the day yes. Especially, with older generations around. Having a separate remote for volume (separate receiver) and TV is enough of a challenge. Having a 3rd creates all sorts of confusion.
- brundolf 6y agoMy Apple TV remote controls the speakers via IR, and triggers the TV to turn on and switch inputs via the HDMI. My game consoles also do the latter. The only time I have to dig out the TV remote is when I'm using an old console or need to fiddle with the settings
- nl 6y agoThe apps on my Hisense TVs are great (and yes I've used a Roku and an Apple TV).
- scubbo 6y agoAnecdata-ly - while I was rejigging my home network and media setup (which necessitated disconnecting our previous video-streaming device), my partner started using the Netflix that was built-in to our TV. It performed admirably, and was actually more performant than the equivalent app we'd been using on [Fire TV Stick/PS4 - I forget which] previously. By all means, rail against anti-privacy, overuse of IoT, adware/spying, etc. - but don't weaken your argument by assuming poor quality of things that _aren't_. It's perfectly possible for an app to do a bad thing well (in this case - spyware _and_ serving up high-quality video).
- jasomill 6y agoYes, the LG Netflix app works as well as anything else I've used (and continues to work after opting out of the various agreements for adware and telemetry, for whatever that's worth). In fact, the LG "magic" motion-sensing remote is quite nice for streaming app UI navigation that's often hit-or-miss on platforms that lack a touch interface or pointing device. With that said, I only connect my TV (which is also my computer display) to Wi-Fi when I'm actively using one of the built-in streaming apps (so infrequently, most recently when the new Expanse episodes dropped, because Amazon, unlike Netflix, doesn't support 4K streaming on PC or Mac).
- dev_tty01 6y agoAgree completely. To do an update, I change my wifi network name and password, do the update, then put the wifi network name and password back to the previous value. Never ever leave the TV connected.
- ashneo76 6y agoSamsung forces you to use their built-in app. The HDMI is moved out to a "connect mini" accessory worth $200