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I don’t think it ultimately matters. Shifting the schedule forward or backwards doesn’t change the fact that the students will only have so many hours in the da

I don’t think it ultimately matters. Shifting the schedule forward or backwards doesn’t change the fact that the students will only have so many hours in the day. The only way to give more time to students is to cut school shorter. That’s to say nothing for the students who would feel compelled to immediately fill that time with another extra-curricular. IMHO what would help is colleges putting a stop to the resume-padding they implicitly encourage students to do to gain an edge on their peers for acceptance.

sokoloff 6y ago
When elite colleges get 15-20 applicants for every student they admit, how would you propose they implement this? Roll a d20, score a critical hit, get into Harvard?
- jimbob45 6y ago
  Just cap the criteria they consider for entry and lottery the qualifying applicants on in. That’s basically how it works now anyway.
- PLenz 6y ago
  Yes, that's EXACTLY how it should work. Lottery
  - sokoloff 6y ago
    Prediction if Harvard did that: Within two years, Harvard gets 100+ applicants for every spot. 10 years later: Harvard is no longer considered elite (or Harvard after Class of 2030 is no longer considered elite). That outcome might be aligned with your goals; it's probably not aligned with Harvard's goals nor that of their alumni.
    - jimbob45 6y ago
      What does elite mean anymore? What makes Harvard elite?
      - sokoloff 6y ago
        What makes Harvard elite is the demand for the grads, under the belief that they are, on average, somehow stronger employees than graduates from a random “University of State”. There’s data to suggest that applying to Harvard is a stronger predictor of lifetime outcomes than the incremental prediction provided by graduating is. So, much of the benefit is provided before campus, but that doesn’t mean that 5x as many people would get the benefit if only they’d be convinced to fill out that application by virtue of admissions being driven by rolling dice. https://time.com/54342/it-doesnt-matter-where-you-go-to-college/ https://time.com/54342/it-doesnt-matter-where-you-go-to-coll...

sokoloff 6y ago

When elite colleges get 15-20 applicants for every student they admit, how would you propose they implement this? Roll a d20, score a critical hit, get into Harvard?

jimbob45 6y ago
Just cap the criteria they consider for entry and lottery the qualifying applicants on in. That’s basically how it works now anyway.
PLenz 6y ago
Yes, that's EXACTLY how it should work. Lottery
- sokoloff 6y ago
  Prediction if Harvard did that: Within two years, Harvard gets 100+ applicants for every spot. 10 years later: Harvard is no longer considered elite (or Harvard after Class of 2030 is no longer considered elite). That outcome might be aligned with your goals; it's probably not aligned with Harvard's goals nor that of their alumni.
  - jimbob45 6y ago
    What does elite mean anymore? What makes Harvard elite?
    - sokoloff 6y ago
      What makes Harvard elite is the demand for the grads, under the belief that they are, on average, somehow stronger employees than graduates from a random “University of State”. There’s data to suggest that applying to Harvard is a stronger predictor of lifetime outcomes than the incremental prediction provided by graduating is. So, much of the benefit is provided before campus, but that doesn’t mean that 5x as many people would get the benefit if only they’d be convinced to fill out that application by virtue of admissions being driven by rolling dice. https://time.com/54342/it-doesnt-matter-where-you-go-to-college/ https://time.com/54342/it-doesnt-matter-where-you-go-to-coll...