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One of Apple's core design philosophies is that when something is not in active use it should be hidden from view. Through this perspective it makes sense that
by BitwiseFool 6y ago
One of Apple's core design philosophies is that when something is not in active use it should be hidden from view. Through this perspective it makes sense that they would hide scrollbars when the user isn't doing any scrolling.
That being said, I would rather have it always be visible because I'm not that much of a minimalist and I still think that non active information has value at a glance.
Edit: This doesn't mean Apple tries to hide everything that isn't in active use. It's a design convention, not a law.
- wk_end 6y agoI wonder how long it'll be before the iconic global menu bar is gone from macOS when not in use?
- inetknght 6y agoBrowsers on mobile devices already do this and it's infuriating
- tomku 6y agoThat's already an option you can set, since at least El Cap.
- tokamak-teapot 6y agoI would guess the reason that auto-hide is not switched on by default is that it’s jarring and ugly to have it appear and disappear. With scrollbars, auto hiding /re-appearing isn’t even something I notice happening.
- prionassembly 6y agoThis was possible back in 10.5 and 10.6 already.
- FigmentEngine 6y agoi don't have a mac - but a scroll bar does two things, allow scrolling and show scroll position. does the mouse cursor disappear when not being moved? does the text in a terminal disappear when not being edited? seems like dual function elements where one function is indication should be exempt...
- robin_reala 6y agoOn macOS the convention is for the mouse cursor to disappear when you start typing.
- doodpants 6y agoI miss this behavior all the time when using Windows. I recently discovered that Windows actually has a setting to enable this behavior, but it's up to each individual application to check for the setting and implement the behavior. And as far as I can tell, literally no one does.
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- godshatter 6y agoOn a similar note, I get annoyed with how Excel won't show the highlighted row or cell when moving focus to another window. Sometimes I want to look at that specific row while using another program, and it's hard to find the data that was just highlighted when that disappears. I don't for the life of me understand what problem that behavior is supposed to help with.
- inetknght 6y ago> when something is not in active use it should be hidden from view My mouse isn't over it or clicking on it but it's still being actively used.
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- Descon 6y agoThis explains why I can never find anything in XCode...
- heavyset_go 6y agoIt also explains why discoverability on iOS is incredibly poor for those who haven't used it often or before.
- BitwiseFool 6y agoI'm glad I'm not the only one. I feel like I'm always jockeying tabs and panes looking for buttons to click. I waste so much time doing this.
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- pseudalopex 6y agoI'd call it a trend not a core philosophy.