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Source is the arrested militant. FWIW: "Interrogation" in South Asian countries is code for torture. They'd get a pickpocket to admit to 9/11 in a couple hours.

Source is the arrested militant. FWIW: "Interrogation" in South Asian countries is code for torture. They'd get a pickpocket to admit to 9/11 in a couple hours. So there is zero evidence for the police's far fetched claims.

DarmokJalad1701 6y ago
"Swarajya" is a right-wing rag on about the same level as Breitbart or National Enquirer is in the US.
- KorematsuFred 6y ago
  As a person writing regularly in Swarajya, I should flag this comment for not adding any value to the discussion and engaging in flamewar. Swarajya is a classical liberal magazine (like USA's Reason Magazine) with a long history and to their credit consistent criticism of all kind of politics. It is surely right leaning but comparison with Breitbart is ridiculous.
  - DarmokJalad1701 6y ago
    That must be why there have been so many instances of false claims in Swarajya and why it is blacklisted by Wikipedia as a source. Surely it is all a western conspiracy. https://www.newslaundry.com/2020/01/03/fake-news-lies-muslim-bashing-and-ravish-kumar-inside-opindias-harrowing-world https://www.newslaundry.com/2020/01/03/fake-news-lies-muslim... https://www.newslaundry.com/2020/06/23/opindia-hate-speech-vanishing-advertisers-and-an-undisclosed-bjp-connection https://www.newslaundry.com/2020/06/23/opindia-hate-speech-v...
    - haltingproblem 6y ago
      You are gaslighting. These articles are about OpIndia and not Swarajya. Wikipedia has immense left wing bias just like the NY Times. The NY Times has made colossal mistakes and takens years or decades to rectify them or sometimes just leaves them standing e.g. the Ukraine Famine on 1930 where their reporter just ignored it and took them 50+ years to rectify it. By your metric the NY Times be black listed on Wikipedia. Newslaundry whom you cite as the source of OpIndia's misdeeds has a huge list of false reporting but they get a pass because of their left-wing orientation.
      - DarmokJalad1701 6y ago
        Gaslighting? They publish stuff like this: https://archive.is/QCJ1o https://archive.is/QCJ1o Justifying the actions of cow-vigilantes who go around killing people over cows. How about some blatant communal propaganda? https://archive.is/DDPxZ https://archive.is/DDPxZ Some quotes: "Are Hindus guinea pigs in a “Hindutva laboratory“ crafted by the media?" "What does a ‘Hindutva laboratory’ where Muslims live in perpetual fear of Hindus look like? Does it look like a place where a minor Hindu girl jumps into a well to kill herself after months of gangrape by a neighbouring Muslim family? Where her father is found hanging from a tree on the day she is scheduled to give her statement in the court? Where the local police is found to have sided with the Muslim perpetrators and mistreated the Hindu victims?" "Of the three Muslim men killed by vigilantes in most infamous cases reported from Ramgarh in 2017 and 2018, two had a prior history of cattle theft and slaughter. " Of course these vigilantes killed those dudes, but then these dudes killed cows. So it's all good. Seriously?? Or this: https://swarajyamag.com/politics/ground-report-what-murder-of-a-gau-rakshak-means-for-his-cow-revering-village https://swarajyamag.com/politics/ground-report-what-murder-o... Another quote: "The almost fully Muslim-populated Nuh district is where most cattle thieves in Palwal enter from. It’s a notorious hub of cattle-smuggling besides many other organised crimes." Of course, not all Muslims are bad. The story won't be complete without the token good-guy-minority who obeys the rules: "Mohammad Nizam, who is sitting beside Singh and belongs to a tiny population of Muslims in Sondhad, agrees. 'We eat chicken. We cannot think of touching cow meat,' says Nizam." Who is really gaslighting here?
        haltingproblem 6y ago
        India has hundreds of lynchings every year [1]. Unjustified but India is a weak state. Policing is non existent especially in villages and rural areas. In the absence of the Police people take force into their own hands. Hindus, Dalits, Muslism are all lynched. Selective outrage around the few are great to push the buttons of folks like you or maybe you are part of the problem. I have studied the data on lynchings and this was a media manufactured narrative to get liberal (esp. western) sympathy and eyeballs. This was very similar to what happened in Godhra and its aftermath. 59 Hindus were lynched. There was no media outrage over it. Even now it is claimed by many as an accident. The riots started. The state was weak, it begged for help from neighboring states but got nothing. Gujarat has seen riots for 100s of years. Some riots lasted months [Wikipedia]. But Modi got blamed for it as if these were the first riots ever. He ensured there were no riots every in his tenure decade plus long tenure ever. Got no credit for it. Careers have been made (Rana Ayub) and hundreds of millions of dollars (Teesta) have been raked in over the Gujarat Riots. Rajdeep even apologized for the coverage and all but exonerated Modi: https://metrosaga.com/after-18-years-of-accusations-rajdeep-sardesai-now-says-modi-not-entirely-responsible-for-2002/ https://metrosaga.com/after-18-years-of-accusations-rajdeep-... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_WhatsApp_lynchings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_WhatsApp_lynchings
    - KorematsuFred 6y ago
      I think you are confusing OpIndia with Swarajya. > Swarajya and why it is blacklisted by Wikipedia as a source Wikipedia is barely a gold standard of anything. It is well known that it has left wing bias and especially much more prejudiced attitude towards pagan and and non-western cultures. > Western conspiracy I do not think there is a conspiracy at all. There is just bias. Bias that things that do not conform to certain views held by certain factions of western left leaning people are all false.
KorematsuFred 6y ago
India practically invented idea of "Hawala", so there is no need to be surprised that millitant groups active in Indian border region might be using bitcoin. The article provides very little useful information. The militants might also be using can of coke, Toyota cars and Gasoline from Shell. It is an irrelevant point.
haltingproblem 6y ago
What is the reason for the police to frame bitcoin in this case? In your view everything the police do, which is this case is the special terror cell of the Bangladesh National Police is suspect and tainted. What would be the motivation for them to make this up? The hatred for law enforcement and tainting everything the do with the "obtained under torture" brush is mindless and zero-value trope.

DarmokJalad1701 6y ago

"Swarajya" is a right-wing rag on about the same level as Breitbart or National Enquirer is in the US.

KorematsuFred 6y ago
As a person writing regularly in Swarajya, I should flag this comment for not adding any value to the discussion and engaging in flamewar. Swarajya is a classical liberal magazine (like USA's Reason Magazine) with a long history and to their credit consistent criticism of all kind of politics. It is surely right leaning but comparison with Breitbart is ridiculous.
- DarmokJalad1701 6y ago
  That must be why there have been so many instances of false claims in Swarajya and why it is blacklisted by Wikipedia as a source. Surely it is all a western conspiracy. https://www.newslaundry.com/2020/01/03/fake-news-lies-muslim-bashing-and-ravish-kumar-inside-opindias-harrowing-world https://www.newslaundry.com/2020/01/03/fake-news-lies-muslim... https://www.newslaundry.com/2020/06/23/opindia-hate-speech-vanishing-advertisers-and-an-undisclosed-bjp-connection https://www.newslaundry.com/2020/06/23/opindia-hate-speech-v...
  - haltingproblem 6y ago
    You are gaslighting. These articles are about OpIndia and not Swarajya. Wikipedia has immense left wing bias just like the NY Times. The NY Times has made colossal mistakes and takens years or decades to rectify them or sometimes just leaves them standing e.g. the Ukraine Famine on 1930 where their reporter just ignored it and took them 50+ years to rectify it. By your metric the NY Times be black listed on Wikipedia. Newslaundry whom you cite as the source of OpIndia's misdeeds has a huge list of false reporting but they get a pass because of their left-wing orientation.
    - DarmokJalad1701 6y ago
      Gaslighting? They publish stuff like this: https://archive.is/QCJ1o https://archive.is/QCJ1o Justifying the actions of cow-vigilantes who go around killing people over cows. How about some blatant communal propaganda? https://archive.is/DDPxZ https://archive.is/DDPxZ Some quotes: "Are Hindus guinea pigs in a “Hindutva laboratory“ crafted by the media?" "What does a ‘Hindutva laboratory’ where Muslims live in perpetual fear of Hindus look like? Does it look like a place where a minor Hindu girl jumps into a well to kill herself after months of gangrape by a neighbouring Muslim family? Where her father is found hanging from a tree on the day she is scheduled to give her statement in the court? Where the local police is found to have sided with the Muslim perpetrators and mistreated the Hindu victims?" "Of the three Muslim men killed by vigilantes in most infamous cases reported from Ramgarh in 2017 and 2018, two had a prior history of cattle theft and slaughter. " Of course these vigilantes killed those dudes, but then these dudes killed cows. So it's all good. Seriously?? Or this: https://swarajyamag.com/politics/ground-report-what-murder-of-a-gau-rakshak-means-for-his-cow-revering-village https://swarajyamag.com/politics/ground-report-what-murder-o... Another quote: "The almost fully Muslim-populated Nuh district is where most cattle thieves in Palwal enter from. It’s a notorious hub of cattle-smuggling besides many other organised crimes." Of course, not all Muslims are bad. The story won't be complete without the token good-guy-minority who obeys the rules: "Mohammad Nizam, who is sitting beside Singh and belongs to a tiny population of Muslims in Sondhad, agrees. 'We eat chicken. We cannot think of touching cow meat,' says Nizam." Who is really gaslighting here?
      - haltingproblem 6y ago
        India has hundreds of lynchings every year [1]. Unjustified but India is a weak state. Policing is non existent especially in villages and rural areas. In the absence of the Police people take force into their own hands. Hindus, Dalits, Muslism are all lynched. Selective outrage around the few are great to push the buttons of folks like you or maybe you are part of the problem. I have studied the data on lynchings and this was a media manufactured narrative to get liberal (esp. western) sympathy and eyeballs. This was very similar to what happened in Godhra and its aftermath. 59 Hindus were lynched. There was no media outrage over it. Even now it is claimed by many as an accident. The riots started. The state was weak, it begged for help from neighboring states but got nothing. Gujarat has seen riots for 100s of years. Some riots lasted months [Wikipedia]. But Modi got blamed for it as if these were the first riots ever. He ensured there were no riots every in his tenure decade plus long tenure ever. Got no credit for it. Careers have been made (Rana Ayub) and hundreds of millions of dollars (Teesta) have been raked in over the Gujarat Riots. Rajdeep even apologized for the coverage and all but exonerated Modi: https://metrosaga.com/after-18-years-of-accusations-rajdeep-sardesai-now-says-modi-not-entirely-responsible-for-2002/ https://metrosaga.com/after-18-years-of-accusations-rajdeep-... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_WhatsApp_lynchings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_WhatsApp_lynchings
  - KorematsuFred 6y ago
    I think you are confusing OpIndia with Swarajya. > Swarajya and why it is blacklisted by Wikipedia as a source Wikipedia is barely a gold standard of anything. It is well known that it has left wing bias and especially much more prejudiced attitude towards pagan and and non-western cultures. > Western conspiracy I do not think there is a conspiracy at all. There is just bias. Bias that things that do not conform to certain views held by certain factions of western left leaning people are all false.

KorematsuFred 6y ago

India practically invented idea of "Hawala", so there is no need to be surprised that millitant groups active in Indian border region might be using bitcoin. The article provides very little useful information. The militants might also be using can of coke, Toyota cars and Gasoline from Shell. It is an irrelevant point.

haltingproblem 6y ago

What is the reason for the police to frame bitcoin in this case? In your view everything the police do, which is this case is the special terror cell of the Bangladesh National Police is suspect and tainted. What would be the motivation for them to make this up? The hatred for law enforcement and tainting everything the do with the "obtained under torture" brush is mindless and zero-value trope.