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Network latency would be a dealbreaker for me here. I’ve tried this style of development but it’s tough to keep a local and remote directory sync’d at a high fr

Network latency would be a dealbreaker for me here. I’ve tried this style of development but it’s tough to keep a local and remote directory sync’d at a high frequency with low latency. I do think this should be the goal of all of us though. I’m slowly shifting more workloads off my Mac and to local lab boxes. I’d actually like to build a product in this space but I’m still trying to crack the latency nut.

dayjah 6y ago
I’ve been tackling that recently. In my case my nuc and my “terminal” are connected via 1Gbps Ethernet. Vim in tmux was terrible; line by line scrolling was very jittery. Witching off font ligatures meant the GPU was able to handle rendering and now everything feels really smooth with multiple vim panes open. Prior to moving back to terminal based editing I was very much in the same spot as the OP, using VSCode - I didn’t notice any form of latency with that setup.
- jimpudar 6y ago
  Have you tried mosh [0]? I've done remote editing in tmux + vim from a plane without too much grief. [0] https://mosh.org/ https://mosh.org/
  - dayjah 6y ago
    I was really impressed with mosh when I used it a few years ago. In this case SSH is going 20ft or so over ethernet, so the aspects that mosh pushes hasn't been necessary.
jamesmishra 6y ago
If your laptop and your NUC are on a local area network, the latency doesn't have to be so bad. I have an Intel NUC and I bought a Thunderbolt 3<->10gbps Ethernet adapter. Then I bought another adapter to plug into my MacBook Pro and a 10gbps desktop switch to connect them.
- lostlogin 6y ago
  This is the way - however the network side of it could easily end up costing more than the Nuc, as 10gbs equipment (switch in particular) is expensive.
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  - sokoloff 6y ago
    Small cheap 10Gbps switches have come onto the market in the last couple of years. You can go 10 gig for a fraction of the $1000 NUC cost now. Though I suspect local 1Gbps would be more than fine here and that’s extremely cheap and commonplace.
    - TheCoelacanth 6y ago
      The low-end NUC is under $200.
      - sokoloff 6y ago
        The NUC in the article was $1016 all-up.
        lostlogin 6y ago
        That unit is a beast. I have one that is similarly spec. The NUC8 i7 is probably a better machine, less cores but considerably more capable with its igpu. However as a headless server, the NUC10 has faster RAM and 2 more cores (which likely throttle to make the performance gap smaller).
    - lostlogin 6y ago
      Have you got a link? I can't find anything for less than about US$1000. It doesn't help that I'm full Unifi, but a small 10gb switch that didn't break the bank would be so excellent.

dayjah 6y ago

I’ve been tackling that recently. In my case my nuc and my “terminal” are connected via 1Gbps Ethernet. Vim in tmux was terrible; line by line scrolling was very jittery. Witching off font ligatures meant the GPU was able to handle rendering and now everything feels really smooth with multiple vim panes open. Prior to moving back to terminal based editing I was very much in the same spot as the OP, using VSCode - I didn’t notice any form of latency with that setup.

jimpudar 6y ago
Have you tried mosh [0]? I've done remote editing in tmux + vim from a plane without too much grief. [0] https://mosh.org/ https://mosh.org/
- dayjah 6y ago
  I was really impressed with mosh when I used it a few years ago. In this case SSH is going 20ft or so over ethernet, so the aspects that mosh pushes hasn't been necessary.

jamesmishra 6y ago

If your laptop and your NUC are on a local area network, the latency doesn't have to be so bad. I have an Intel NUC and I bought a Thunderbolt 3<->10gbps Ethernet adapter. Then I bought another adapter to plug into my MacBook Pro and a 10gbps desktop switch to connect them.

lostlogin 6y ago
This is the way - however the network side of it could easily end up costing more than the Nuc, as 10gbs equipment (switch in particular) is expensive.
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- sokoloff 6y ago
  Small cheap 10Gbps switches have come onto the market in the last couple of years. You can go 10 gig for a fraction of the $1000 NUC cost now. Though I suspect local 1Gbps would be more than fine here and that’s extremely cheap and commonplace.
  - TheCoelacanth 6y ago
    The low-end NUC is under $200.
    - sokoloff 6y ago
      The NUC in the article was $1016 all-up.
      - lostlogin 6y ago
        That unit is a beast. I have one that is similarly spec. The NUC8 i7 is probably a better machine, less cores but considerably more capable with its igpu. However as a headless server, the NUC10 has faster RAM and 2 more cores (which likely throttle to make the performance gap smaller).
  - lostlogin 6y ago
    Have you got a link? I can't find anything for less than about US$1000. It doesn't help that I'm full Unifi, but a small 10gb switch that didn't break the bank would be so excellent.