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by kasabali 6y ago

fyolnish 6y ago
The loudness war was not about making music audible over road noise
- kasabali 6y ago
  I didn't say it was for "road noise". Car stereos was one of the popular places for listening CDs at the height of loudness war. > So the recording and mastering engineers began to produce recordings with limited dynamic range that would sound "better" on iPods and car stereos that are used in areas with more ambient noise than a quiet listening room. [1] > Today, many people listen to music primarily in the car or other noisy places, where louder music cuts through against the background noise. Record companies, especially today, tend to cater to this market of casual, “on-the-go” listeners and make heavy use of compression and limiting in order to make their album louder. [2] [1] https://sites.google.com/site/dbremaster/home/-loudness-war-and-the-dynamic-range-dr-database---some-observations https://sites.google.com/site/dbremaster/home/-loudness-war-... [2] https://www.grin.com/document/206816 https://www.grin.com/document/206816
abhinav22 6y ago
That’s unrelated to vinyl vs cds
- danhor 6y ago
  Not for the reason GP mentioned, but you can increase the loudness much more on CDs than on vinyl, since on vinyl the needle physically jumps out if the loudness is constantly high, so it needs to be mastered with more dynamic range. There is also the thing that the high bitrate/high sampling rate masterings sound much better in that regard, since they target a different audience
- kasabali 6y ago
  Sure, if you deliberately refuse to interpret the context. Vinyl releases have a different target market and are mastered with more fidelity in mind, while CD releases are mainstream, and have been mastered with small dynamic range for decades because of the loudness war. I'm surprised I had to spell this out explicitly. https://www.yoursoundmatters.com/vinyl-vs-cd-in-the-loudness-war/ https://www.yoursoundmatters.com/vinyl-vs-cd-in-the-loudness...
InitialLastName 6y ago
The loudness war was more about mastering for radio; in a world where all listeners are fleeting, you do everything you can to keep them, including making the music as loud as you can fit in your channel.

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fyolnish 6y ago

The loudness war was not about making music audible over road noise

kasabali 6y ago
I didn't say it was for "road noise". Car stereos was one of the popular places for listening CDs at the height of loudness war. > So the recording and mastering engineers began to produce recordings with limited dynamic range that would sound "better" on iPods and car stereos that are used in areas with more ambient noise than a quiet listening room. [1] > Today, many people listen to music primarily in the car or other noisy places, where louder music cuts through against the background noise. Record companies, especially today, tend to cater to this market of casual, “on-the-go” listeners and make heavy use of compression and limiting in order to make their album louder. [2] [1] https://sites.google.com/site/dbremaster/home/-loudness-war-and-the-dynamic-range-dr-database---some-observations https://sites.google.com/site/dbremaster/home/-loudness-war-... [2] https://www.grin.com/document/206816 https://www.grin.com/document/206816

abhinav22 6y ago

That’s unrelated to vinyl vs cds

danhor 6y ago
Not for the reason GP mentioned, but you can increase the loudness much more on CDs than on vinyl, since on vinyl the needle physically jumps out if the loudness is constantly high, so it needs to be mastered with more dynamic range. There is also the thing that the high bitrate/high sampling rate masterings sound much better in that regard, since they target a different audience
kasabali 6y ago
Sure, if you deliberately refuse to interpret the context. Vinyl releases have a different target market and are mastered with more fidelity in mind, while CD releases are mainstream, and have been mastered with small dynamic range for decades because of the loudness war. I'm surprised I had to spell this out explicitly. https://www.yoursoundmatters.com/vinyl-vs-cd-in-the-loudness-war/ https://www.yoursoundmatters.com/vinyl-vs-cd-in-the-loudness...

InitialLastName 6y ago

The loudness war was more about mastering for radio; in a world where all listeners are fleeting, you do everything you can to keep them, including making the music as loud as you can fit in your channel.