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I had a recruiter say "XML and UML are basically the same, right?". There's almost a dangerous level of knowledge among some recruiters where they think they k
by noneeeed 6y ago
I had a recruiter say "XML and UML are basically the same, right?".
There's almost a dangerous level of knowledge among some recruiters where they think they know enough to do crap like this.
- DoubleGlazing 6y agoThat's something I've noticed over the last 10 years or so as job descriptions get longer. All those new terms like React, Vue, SaaS, Azure, AWS etc. They don't really know what they mean. I was asked if I could code in Azure. This led to a weird conversation where I was trying to explain what Azure was, whilst he wouldn't listen to me and was adamant that it was a programming language.
- ficklepickle 6y ago"But can you code in API? I don't want your life story, just answer me! Do you know API?!" I'm so lucky, I think I found the best recruiter in all Vancouver. He helped me get my ideal role and was generally kind and competent. Just to offset the horror stories.
- nucleardog 6y agoIf you don't mind I'd love to get in touch with that recruiter. I'm in Vancouver and would love to make a change. E-mail's in my profile. Cheers!
- teucris 6y ago“But can you code in API?” “Sure, can I pay you in ATM?”
- throwaway743 6y ago"Sorry, I refuse favors for my work. It's inappropriate and unethical. Plus, ass-to-mouth isn't really my thing :/ "
- teucris 6y agoFor posterity of these comments, I did not mean that form of ATM.
- Kharvok 6y agoThis is so real it's painful.
- obmelvin 6y agoHow did you find your recruiter? Do you mind sharing the rough process that unfolded? Not asking for you to share them, just wondering if there are any takeaways you would have for others on the process.
- ficklepickle 6y agoNo prob. He actually had a position advertised on roberthalf.ca. The position seemed right up my alley. The directions part explained he was the recruiter for this position, and to reach out on LinkedIn first. So, I did that. I guess it was a pre-screen to see if I read directions. He accepted the request but didn't respond to my message for a few days. I'm really not good at self promotion, but I also really wanted to get his attention. I saw that he posted regularly to LinkedIn and also engaged with a lot of posts. So I posted a cool side project[0] to LinkedIn that I had recently done. I was feeling pretty exasperated, I think I wrote something like "if i will do this just for fun, imagine what I will do if you hire me." I don't necessarily recommend that exact approach, but he did notice it and that is what got the ball rolling. Thankfully he thought it was cool, because it is a little bit edgy. I was looking for a smaller company that valued a hacker mindset, so it was a bit of a filter as well I suppose. We immediately hit it off. He seemed to understand what I was all about, which is cool. I'm an aspie and a lot of ppl just don't get me. He has over 20 years experience so he really knows his stuff and he was just nice and down to earth. I got extra lucky because he was friends with the hiring manager for 20 years, they worked in the game industry together in the 90s. I'm not capable of generating any takeaways currently, as I am real tired, so I will leave that as an exercise for the reader. Hopefully my response was vaguely coherent and at least tangentially related to your question. Sleep time! Edit: Forgot link! [0] https://jeremypoole.ca/posts/evofinder/ https://jeremypoole.ca/posts/evofinder/
- obmelvin 6y agoJust noticed your reply. Thank you!
- nightcracker 6y agoAPI is web scale.
- developer92 6y ago"I can code an API, yes."
- Viliam1234 6y ago"Good." Writes in resume: 10 years coding in API, expert level.
- kwdc 6y agoWe need synergistic team players with 5 years of api experience. Unfortunately we can't offer you a position if you can't program in API. paraphrased from a rejection phone call - swap the acronym with the word "interface" if you want to get closer to the original
- fakedang 6y agoHaha, reminds me of that FastApi guy's interaction with hiring reqs. "5+ years experience in using Fastapi"
- bluedino 6y ago>> I was asked if I could code in Azure. Sure!
- jjeaff 6y agoVS Code Remote is very nice. You can deploy your ide right inside a cloud vm and code all day long in Azure.
- ysavir 6y agoSeems like a wonderful red-flag system to me. I'd rather live in a world where bad recruiters make their values apparent than in one where they are well hidden.
- dliff 6y agoNot a recruiter but a co-worker who asked me "Do you know what an algorithm is? We might need one."
- hootbootscoot 6y ago"Get a bundle, they are cheaper."
- swirepe 6y agoTo be fair, my coworkers and I cyberbully each other all the time
- rantwasp 6y agothey’re 66% the same thing. yes /s
- Viliam1234 6y agothe important part is that either makes you an expert on ML :)
- rantwasp 6y agothe real MVP... or MLVP... seeing the neural nets in XML!
- agrippanux 6y agoTBF the recruiter likely was parroting what a previous candidate they were repping told them. I frequently find I have to re-educate recruiters who were previously informed incorrectly.
- noneeeed 6y agoAbsolutely, but that was kind of my point. A lot of recruiters I've encountered are like talking to a markov chain trained from some job ads. It sounds right if you don't actually know what the words mean.
- hootbootscoot 6y ago..."maybe they are"... did you check for a pulse? I suppose there's nothing preventing walking Markov chains from having pulses... But your comment is the pithiest most succinct one here. Throw away the OP's tweet and all these comments, especially mine, and just put your comment on a blank page and let's call it's the succintestist summary possible.
- gjvr 6y agoHa Ha. Thats’s even worse than the ‘C Hashtag’ that an HR dude was rambling on about.
- npsimons 6y ago"Oh yeah, that C octothorp language, I've heard of it."
- Smithalicious 6y agoI happen to be an expert in C Sink
- a1369209993 6y agoWouldn't that be centaur sink?
- npsimons 6y ago'Charlie sink'
- a1369209993 6y agoNo, a centaur standing next to a sink.
- LorenPechtel 6y agoPrograms, like ships, sink in the C.
- Sohcahtoa82 6y agoBut how are you in C Add Add?
- gtk40 6y agoIt's funny how "hash" sort of became a mainstream way to pronounce "#" but not quite.
- 1024core 6y agoThat's when you reply: no, "UML" was 3 versions before "XML"
- aaroninsf 6y agoACTUALLY it was 4 versions, although it was vendor specific most ML experts consider Wx a version unto itself, especially since it was MLXO compliant.
- hootbootscoot 6y agodon't forget to rotate your carburator bearings.
- protomyth 6y agoI had one where "OWL is just like MFC, right?". At least she did listen while explained the differences. Sadly, I took a report writing gig to get out of one place. That was a hell of a bad call.
- RichardCA 6y agoThat made me LOL. If I told you I once had a recruiter assume MVS and TSO were the same, you'd pretty much be able to guess my age from that.