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OVH is one of the largest providers in the world. They run a sub brand for personal use (bare metal for $5/m, hardware replacements in 30 min or less usually).

by ev1 6y ago

OVH is one of the largest providers in the world. They run a sub brand for personal use (bare metal for $5/m, hardware replacements in 30 min or less usually). ..and they do support all of those things you just listed, not just API-backed bare metal.

treesknees 6y ago
Is that a typo? I only see OVH bare metal starting at >$50. How could a provider offer a bare metal server for $5?
- ev1 6y ago
  OVH has new servers. Their sub-brand soyoustart has older servers (that are still perfectly fine), roughly E3 Xeon/16-32GB/3x2TB to 4x2TB for $40/m ex vat. Their other sub brand kimsufi for personal servers has Atom low-power bare metal with 2TB HDD (in reality it is advertised 500GB/1TB, but they don't really have any of those in stock left, if your drive fails they replace it with a 2T - so far this has been my exp) for $5. All of this is powered by automation, you don't really get any support and you are expected to be competent. If your server is hacked you get PXE-rebooted into a rescue system and can scp/rsync off your contents before your server is reinstalled. OS installs, reboots, provisioning are all automated, there's essentially no human contact. PS: Scaleway, in Paris, used to offer $2 bare metal (ultra low voltage, weaker than an Atom, 2GB ram), but pulled all their cheap machines, raised prices on existing users, and rebranded as enterprisey. The offer was called 'kidechire' -- It is kind of interesting that on the US side everyone is in disbelief, or like "why not use AWS" - while most of the European market knows of OVH, Hetzner, etc. My own reason for using OVH? It's affordable and I would not have gotten many projects (and the gaming community I help out with) off the ground otherwise. I can rent bare metal with NVMe, and several terabytes of RAM for less than my daily wage for the whole month, and not worry about per-GB billing or attacks. In the gaming world you generally do not ever want to use usage based billing - made the mistake of using Cloudfront and S3 once and banned script kiddies would wget-loop the largest possible file from the most expensive region botnet repeatedly in a money-DoS. I legitimately wouldn't have been able to do my "for-fun-and-learning" side projects (no funding, no accelerator credits, ...) without someone like them. The equivalent of a digitalocean $1000/m VM is about $100 on OVH.
  - iagovar 6y ago
    I like scalingo too. If you need a bit more, they have DBaaS, APP Containers and Networking.
    - ev1 6y ago
      Scalingo is €552.96/m for 16GB of memory. 32c xeon/256GB ECC/500GB SSD 8TB HDD is $100/m at OVH. The difference is amusing.
      - yannski 6y ago
        you're comparing a PaaS with a piece of hardware. It's absolutely not comparable. Yann, CEO at Scalingo
  - kakwa_ 6y ago
    Just as a side note, the name "kimsufi" comes from the French "qui me suffit", which roughly translate to "enough for me".
    - ev1 6y ago
      Ha! You can see they localise it too https://www.ovh.com/world/support/terms-and-conditions/ https://www.ovh.com/world/support/terms-and-conditions/ Like kimsufi equivalent brand "isgenug"
- sudosysgen 6y ago
  It's not a typo. OVH runs Kimsufi, which has bare metal servers for as low as 5$. It is pretty insane.
  - treesknees 6y ago
    Thank you. TIL!
- tecleandor 6y ago
  Kimsufi has tiny cheap Atom servers with self built or made to order racks and hardware: (This is 2011, I think it looks fancier now) https://lafibre.info/ovh-datacenter/data-center-ovh-roubaix-1/msg33668/#msg33668 https://lafibre.info/ovh-datacenter/data-center-ovh-roubaix-... Edit: Seems like they stopped publishing videos for that datacenter, but this seems to be a video for the burn down datacenter in 2013: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y47RM9zylFY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y47RM9zylFY

by ev1 6y ago

treesknees 6y ago

Is that a typo? I only see OVH bare metal starting at >$50. How could a provider offer a bare metal server for $5?

ev1 6y ago
OVH has new servers. Their sub-brand soyoustart has older servers (that are still perfectly fine), roughly E3 Xeon/16-32GB/3x2TB to 4x2TB for $40/m ex vat. Their other sub brand kimsufi for personal servers has Atom low-power bare metal with 2TB HDD (in reality it is advertised 500GB/1TB, but they don't really have any of those in stock left, if your drive fails they replace it with a 2T - so far this has been my exp) for $5. All of this is powered by automation, you don't really get any support and you are expected to be competent. If your server is hacked you get PXE-rebooted into a rescue system and can scp/rsync off your contents before your server is reinstalled. OS installs, reboots, provisioning are all automated, there's essentially no human contact. PS: Scaleway, in Paris, used to offer $2 bare metal (ultra low voltage, weaker than an Atom, 2GB ram), but pulled all their cheap machines, raised prices on existing users, and rebranded as enterprisey. The offer was called 'kidechire' -- It is kind of interesting that on the US side everyone is in disbelief, or like "why not use AWS" - while most of the European market knows of OVH, Hetzner, etc. My own reason for using OVH? It's affordable and I would not have gotten many projects (and the gaming community I help out with) off the ground otherwise. I can rent bare metal with NVMe, and several terabytes of RAM for less than my daily wage for the whole month, and not worry about per-GB billing or attacks. In the gaming world you generally do not ever want to use usage based billing - made the mistake of using Cloudfront and S3 once and banned script kiddies would wget-loop the largest possible file from the most expensive region botnet repeatedly in a money-DoS. I legitimately wouldn't have been able to do my "for-fun-and-learning" side projects (no funding, no accelerator credits, ...) without someone like them. The equivalent of a digitalocean $1000/m VM is about $100 on OVH.
- iagovar 6y ago
  I like scalingo too. If you need a bit more, they have DBaaS, APP Containers and Networking.
  - ev1 6y ago
    Scalingo is €552.96/m for 16GB of memory. 32c xeon/256GB ECC/500GB SSD 8TB HDD is $100/m at OVH. The difference is amusing.
    - yannski 6y ago
      you're comparing a PaaS with a piece of hardware. It's absolutely not comparable. Yann, CEO at Scalingo
- kakwa_ 6y ago
  Just as a side note, the name "kimsufi" comes from the French "qui me suffit", which roughly translate to "enough for me".
  - ev1 6y ago
    Ha! You can see they localise it too https://www.ovh.com/world/support/terms-and-conditions/ https://www.ovh.com/world/support/terms-and-conditions/ Like kimsufi equivalent brand "isgenug"
sudosysgen 6y ago
It's not a typo. OVH runs Kimsufi, which has bare metal servers for as low as 5$. It is pretty insane.
- treesknees 6y ago
  Thank you. TIL!
tecleandor 6y ago
Kimsufi has tiny cheap Atom servers with self built or made to order racks and hardware: (This is 2011, I think it looks fancier now) https://lafibre.info/ovh-datacenter/data-center-ovh-roubaix-1/msg33668/#msg33668 https://lafibre.info/ovh-datacenter/data-center-ovh-roubaix-... Edit: Seems like they stopped publishing videos for that datacenter, but this seems to be a video for the burn down datacenter in 2013: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y47RM9zylFY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y47RM9zylFY