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How about it leaking from a research facility?

neartheplain 6y ago
That question remains open. https://thebulletin.org/2021/02/who-covid-19-didnt-leak-from-a-lab-also-who-maybe-it-did/ https://thebulletin.org/2021/02/who-covid-19-didnt-leak-from...
luxuryballs 6y ago
Yeah and it’s clear that they are making this stuff too: “Utilizing the SARS-CoV infectious clone, we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse adapted SARS-CoV backbone” https://www.med.unc.edu/orfeome/files/2018/03/a-sars-like-cluster-of-circulating-bat-coronaviruses-shows-potential-for-human-emergence.pdf https://www.med.unc.edu/orfeome/files/2018/03/a-sars-like-cl... another interesting find: http://ge.usembassy.gov/fact-sheet-activity-at-the-wuhan-institute-of-virology/ http://ge.usembassy.gov/fact-sheet-activity-at-the-wuhan-ins... The U.S. government has reason to believe that several researchers inside the WIV became sick in autumn 2019, before the first identified case of the outbreak, with symptoms consistent with both COVID-19 and common seasonal illnesses. This raises questions about the credibility of WIV senior researcher Shi Zhengli’s public claim that there was “zero infection” among the WIV’s staff and students of SARS-CoV-2 or SARS-related viruses. Accidental infections in labs have caused several previous virus outbreaks in China and elsewhere, including a 2004 SARS outbreak in Beijing that infected nine people, killing one. The CCP has prevented independent journalists, investigators, and global health authorities from interviewing researchers at the WIV, including those who were ill in the fall of 2019. Any credible inquiry into the origin of the virus must include interviews with these researchers and a full accounting of their previously unreported illness.
- dominicjj 6y ago
  >This raises questions about the credibility of WIV senior researcher Shi Zhengli It's a straightforward although time-consuming exercise to trace through Shi's research from the last 15 years and see that she and her team have clearly been developing a bioweapon based on SARS and gain of function stuff pasted in from bat coronaviruses and elsewhere.
RedneckBob 6y ago
Apparently just a few unanswered questions bar the truth according to the study released by this Dr. Steven Quay. Highly doubt we'll get answers because of the nation that is sitting on the answers. "A Bayesian analysis concludes beyond a reasonable doubt that SARS-CoV-2 is not a natural zoonosis but instead is laboratory derived" - https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/new-study-by-dr-ste https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/new-study-by-dr-ste... The first 12 pages of the PDF read like a sci-fy thriller. Link to the PDF (scroll down the page a bit): - https://zenodo.org/record/4477081 https://zenodo.org/record/4477081
- sciprojguy 6y ago
  when you see the phrases "Bayesian analysis" and "concludes beyond a reasonable doubt" in the same sentence you can be pretty sure it's equine fecal matter being passed off as chocolate energy drink.

That question remains open. https://thebulletin.org/2021/02/who-covid-19-didnt-leak-from-a-lab-also-who-maybe-it-did/ https://thebulletin.org/2021/02/who-covid-19-didnt-leak-from...

luxuryballs 6y ago

Yeah and it’s clear that they are making this stuff too: “Utilizing the SARS-CoV infectious clone, we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse adapted SARS-CoV backbone” https://www.med.unc.edu/orfeome/files/2018/03/a-sars-like-cluster-of-circulating-bat-coronaviruses-shows-potential-for-human-emergence.pdf https://www.med.unc.edu/orfeome/files/2018/03/a-sars-like-cl... another interesting find: http://ge.usembassy.gov/fact-sheet-activity-at-the-wuhan-institute-of-virology/ http://ge.usembassy.gov/fact-sheet-activity-at-the-wuhan-ins... The U.S. government has reason to believe that several researchers inside the WIV became sick in autumn 2019, before the first identified case of the outbreak, with symptoms consistent with both COVID-19 and common seasonal illnesses. This raises questions about the credibility of WIV senior researcher Shi Zhengli’s public claim that there was “zero infection” among the WIV’s staff and students of SARS-CoV-2 or SARS-related viruses. Accidental infections in labs have caused several previous virus outbreaks in China and elsewhere, including a 2004 SARS outbreak in Beijing that infected nine people, killing one. The CCP has prevented independent journalists, investigators, and global health authorities from interviewing researchers at the WIV, including those who were ill in the fall of 2019. Any credible inquiry into the origin of the virus must include interviews with these researchers and a full accounting of their previously unreported illness.

dominicjj 6y ago
>This raises questions about the credibility of WIV senior researcher Shi Zhengli It's a straightforward although time-consuming exercise to trace through Shi's research from the last 15 years and see that she and her team have clearly been developing a bioweapon based on SARS and gain of function stuff pasted in from bat coronaviruses and elsewhere.

RedneckBob 6y ago

Apparently just a few unanswered questions bar the truth according to the study released by this Dr. Steven Quay. Highly doubt we'll get answers because of the nation that is sitting on the answers. "A Bayesian analysis concludes beyond a reasonable doubt that SARS-CoV-2 is not a natural zoonosis but instead is laboratory derived" - https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/new-study-by-dr-ste https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/new-study-by-dr-ste... The first 12 pages of the PDF read like a sci-fy thriller. Link to the PDF (scroll down the page a bit): - https://zenodo.org/record/4477081 https://zenodo.org/record/4477081

sciprojguy 6y ago
when you see the phrases "Bayesian analysis" and "concludes beyond a reasonable doubt" in the same sentence you can be pretty sure it's equine fecal matter being passed off as chocolate energy drink.