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> In the 1990s we saw the mass industrialization of web development with PHP and Apache HTTP Server. This isn't really true. PHP4 wasn't released until 2000. S
by mtberatwork 6y ago
> In the 1990s we saw the mass industrialization of web development with PHP and Apache HTTP Server.
This isn't really true. PHP4 wasn't released until 2000. Sure, OK, while there were people using PHP3 in the 90s, it wasn't nearly as ubiquitous to the point of "mass industrialization". PHP3 wasn't even much of a language to begin with and if anything, Java/J2EE was the stack used for "mass industrialization" (Java's role is still dominant in most domains today). Perl was also a much more popular scripting language at the time.
- nickserv 6y agoCompletely agree. When I started un the late 90's and early 2000's, it was mainly CGI/Perl. PHP was seen as very amateurish, and Python didn't have the massive ecosystem it has now (Zope sucked). And that wasn't really industrialized, mainly lots of ad-hoc internal frameworks.
- acdha 6y agoASP and ColdFusion, too. We had clients switch to PHP 3 because it was so much faster and less buggy (!) but that was definitely seen as a bit of a gamble.
- keithwhor 6y agoI had originally written this as a much longer piece — probably double the length — where I covered the history including CGI / Perl but edited for brevity. I never had experience with J2EE personally which is why it’s missing. I was 12 in the year 2000 and had just started web development — because of that PHP retains a sense of primacy in my mind. Forgive the bias :).
- bluedino 6y agoHe was probably thinking Perl