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AWS and GCP are also prone to same kind of data loss if the AZ you are operating in goes down. They don't automatically geo-replicate things. You still need a

AWS and GCP are also prone to same kind of data loss if the AZ you are operating in goes down. They don't automatically geo-replicate things. You still need a backup for the torched EC2 instance to be able to relaunch in another AZ/region.

nnx 6y ago
That's true, but it seems whole of SBG region for OVH is within same disaster radius for one fire... with SBG2 destroyed and SBG1 partly damaged. "The whole site has been isolated, which impacts all our services on SBG1, SBG2, SBG3 and SBG4. " Wonder if those SBGx were advertised as being the same as "Availability Zones" - when other cloud providers ensure zones are distanced enough from each other (~1km at least) to likely survive events such as fire.
- hashhar 6y ago
  Thats a fair point. If OVH does market them as AZs then it's disingenuous and liable to suits IMO.
  - cbg0 6y ago
    No, it isn't, as there's no clear cut definition of what an availability zone is.
- tyingq 6y ago
  The buildings are VERY close to one another. https://cdn.baxtel.com/data-center/ovh-strasbourg-campus/photos/flickity_display_OVH-Strasbourg-Campus-OVH-Strasbourg-Campus-showing-all-3-Buildings-2019.png https://cdn.baxtel.com/data-center/ovh-strasbourg-campus/pho...
  - Zevis 6y ago
    That seems, uh, problematic.
    - ZWoz 6y ago
      Why? They aren't making any sort guarantees with those locations, those aren't advertised as separated fault zones. Those buildings are meant as expansions for existing site.
- brmgb 6y ago
  > but it seems whole of SBG region for OVH is within same disaster radius for one fire SBG is for Strasbourg. That's not a region. It's a city. Obviously, SBG1 to 4 are in the radius of one fire. It's four different buildings on the same site.
- ev1 6y ago
  They were not and never advertised as anything similar to AZ. You could not deploy in SBG1,2,3, etc. You only pick city = Strasbourg at deploy time. It's merely a building marker.

nnx 6y ago

That's true, but it seems whole of SBG region for OVH is within same disaster radius for one fire... with SBG2 destroyed and SBG1 partly damaged. "The whole site has been isolated, which impacts all our services on SBG1, SBG2, SBG3 and SBG4. " Wonder if those SBGx were advertised as being the same as "Availability Zones" - when other cloud providers ensure zones are distanced enough from each other (~1km at least) to likely survive events such as fire.

hashhar 6y ago
Thats a fair point. If OVH does market them as AZs then it's disingenuous and liable to suits IMO.
- cbg0 6y ago
  No, it isn't, as there's no clear cut definition of what an availability zone is.
tyingq 6y ago
The buildings are VERY close to one another. https://cdn.baxtel.com/data-center/ovh-strasbourg-campus/photos/flickity_display_OVH-Strasbourg-Campus-OVH-Strasbourg-Campus-showing-all-3-Buildings-2019.png https://cdn.baxtel.com/data-center/ovh-strasbourg-campus/pho...
- Zevis 6y ago
  That seems, uh, problematic.
  - ZWoz 6y ago
    Why? They aren't making any sort guarantees with those locations, those aren't advertised as separated fault zones. Those buildings are meant as expansions for existing site.
brmgb 6y ago
> but it seems whole of SBG region for OVH is within same disaster radius for one fire SBG is for Strasbourg. That's not a region. It's a city. Obviously, SBG1 to 4 are in the radius of one fire. It's four different buildings on the same site.
ev1 6y ago
They were not and never advertised as anything similar to AZ. You could not deploy in SBG1,2,3, etc. You only pick city = Strasbourg at deploy time. It's merely a building marker.