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You've asserted without evidence over and over again that Israel is somehow dependent on the UK for military support, and that this was true around the time of

You've asserted without evidence over and over again that Israel is somehow dependent on the UK for military support, and that this was true around the time of Israel's founding as well. The UK opposed Israel's creation, armed its enemies, and its officers served in armies that actively attempted to crush the state, while its air force provided air support. If you somehow contest this, and claim that Israel and the UK were close allies despite everything linked to you in this discussion thus far, please provide evidence. It's pointless to continue this while you handwave away numerous and repeated historical references to actual military engagements where the two countries were on opposite sides, and provide no references of your own other than your own assertions. The first time Israeli and UK forces even trained together was in 2019. The claim that the UK provided long-term military support from the date of Israel's founding is just totally specious.

boomboomsubban 6y ago
>You've asserted without evidence over and over again that Israel is somehow dependent on the UK for military support, and that this was true around the time of Israel's founding as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripartite_Declaration_of_1950 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripartite_Declaration_of_1950
- NeverFade 6y ago
  From the link you just posted: > Impact: > According to Gerald M. Steinberg, the "agreement did not prevent the Arab states from obtaining weapons through their alliance relationships with suppliers, but Israel was excluded.... Little foreign aid was provided by the United States, and Israeli military officials who sought to purchase weapons and ammunition in the United States were rebuffed." Thus this agreement, that was aimed at stopping the Israeli-Arab arms race (which by itself is a neutral and not a pro-Israeli agenda), led in fact to Israel being blocked from purchasing weapons, while Arabs were still able to purchase them. This is in fact yet another example of the major powers active in the area - United States, United Kingdom, and France - acting against Israel and its interests. So I have to conclude you don't bother reading your own links, in hopes other won't as well.
  - boomboomsubban 6y ago
    >Thus this agreement, that was aimed at stopping the Israeli-Arab arms race That is the secondary goal of the agreement. The primary one is spelt out immediately >The Tripartite Declaration of 1950... was a joint statement by the United States, United Kingdom, and France to guarantee the territorial status quo that had been determined by the 1949 Arab–Israeli Armistice Agreements. I never said that the countries wanted to prop up the Israeli army, they didn't want it to exist.

boomboomsubban 6y ago

>You've asserted without evidence over and over again that Israel is somehow dependent on the UK for military support, and that this was true around the time of Israel's founding as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripartite_Declaration_of_1950 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripartite_Declaration_of_1950

NeverFade 6y ago
From the link you just posted: > Impact: > According to Gerald M. Steinberg, the "agreement did not prevent the Arab states from obtaining weapons through their alliance relationships with suppliers, but Israel was excluded.... Little foreign aid was provided by the United States, and Israeli military officials who sought to purchase weapons and ammunition in the United States were rebuffed." Thus this agreement, that was aimed at stopping the Israeli-Arab arms race (which by itself is a neutral and not a pro-Israeli agenda), led in fact to Israel being blocked from purchasing weapons, while Arabs were still able to purchase them. This is in fact yet another example of the major powers active in the area - United States, United Kingdom, and France - acting against Israel and its interests. So I have to conclude you don't bother reading your own links, in hopes other won't as well.
- boomboomsubban 6y ago
  >Thus this agreement, that was aimed at stopping the Israeli-Arab arms race That is the secondary goal of the agreement. The primary one is spelt out immediately >The Tripartite Declaration of 1950... was a joint statement by the United States, United Kingdom, and France to guarantee the territorial status quo that had been determined by the 1949 Arab–Israeli Armistice Agreements. I never said that the countries wanted to prop up the Israeli army, they didn't want it to exist.