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Any known security issue with Wyze? I am very impress with their features. I am planning to buy couple of them, but I would never point them inside the house

by tkinom 6y ago

Any known security issue with Wyze? I am very impress with their features. I am planning to buy couple of them, but I would never point them inside the house. Probably will put them in their own wifi network. I built a home grow solution with RPi + Webcam + Google Drive with some python script. But the performance to upload Pics to G Drive was slow and the way viewing the pics uploaded to G Drive was not very convenient.

GloriousKoji 6y ago
If you're serious about security I recommend against wyze. You're locked into their platform and it isn't fully reliable. If you want something like a video of that opossum sneaking in the attic, coyote peeing in your rose bushes, that kid across in the street with the razer scooter and german shepard not cleaning up the poop off your lawn or what your iguana is up to when you're not home then it's great for that. The UI is probably worse than your gdrive setup. You have to use the wyze app to access it, which has a terribly slow scrubbing interface. The more convenient part is to check the motion/sound triggered 15 second clips which are upload to their cloud servers. Other than that I find myself frustrated and just take out the microSD card and browse it on my computer. Also don't buy the sense kit. It just doesn't work. I've even tried experiments with it right next to the camera and it's not consistent enough. If you want to use the wyze cams are generic IP cameras they offer unsupported firmware for that but then you'll need to roll your own DVR and I'm not sure if that supports all the new features the V3 offers or follows the genric protocol for remote pan control.
- zucked 6y ago
  Wyze cameras have open source firmware that can be loaded (DaFang Hacks) that works pretty well. I've never used (or trusted) the Wyze firmware anywhere on my network, but I use a couple of Wyze cameras pointed outwards from my house connected to a a DVR with motion detection.
  - vineyardmike 6y ago
    Not sure when you bought yours but i haven't been able to get DaFang working in at least 18 months (due to OTA firmware updates before attempting DaFang)
- dude3 6y ago
  I find the Wyze cams great! Cheap. They do have 2 factor auth support for apps like Authy. It doesn't sound like you have enabled the premium features. Person detection is really good for exterior facing cams. Hook it up to Alexa Show and you have person detected notifications also access to any cam. Premium also has longer clips. For the price it's kind of OK to be semi locked down. I believe the reason for not supporting RTSP is because of hardware limitations on V2.
- bredren 6y ago
  I have used three wyze cams but only for pointing outside or to monitor plant growth. Here is an HD timelapse of a Monstera Deliciosa I made with one: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0NH2t1fJL9w&feature=emb_title https://youtube.com/watch?v=0NH2t1fJL9w&feature=emb_title The first thing I do with a wyze cam is physically remove the microphone, because it can only otherwise be turned off in software which is configured in the cloud. I'd consider using them with the OS firmware change, but hadn't thought of also running them on an independent network.
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bredren 6y ago
There were no "known" security issues with Verkada.
shakna 6y ago
A couple years back (2019) Wyze had a breach [0], which accidentally exposed another breach that they hadn't been aware of. This came just six months after a previous breach. But it suggested that Wyze can remotely disable all encryption and so on whenever they feel like it. And that for a "subset of users" they collected: "Height, Weight, Gender, Bone Density, Bone Mass, Daily Protein Intake, and other health information", which was included in the breached data. [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/30/business/wyze-security-camera-breach.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/30/business/wyze-security-ca...
xvector 6y ago
Why not use an E2EE solution, like HomeKit for your camera?

by tkinom 6y ago

GloriousKoji 6y ago

If you're serious about security I recommend against wyze. You're locked into their platform and it isn't fully reliable. If you want something like a video of that opossum sneaking in the attic, coyote peeing in your rose bushes, that kid across in the street with the razer scooter and german shepard not cleaning up the poop off your lawn or what your iguana is up to when you're not home then it's great for that. The UI is probably worse than your gdrive setup. You have to use the wyze app to access it, which has a terribly slow scrubbing interface. The more convenient part is to check the motion/sound triggered 15 second clips which are upload to their cloud servers. Other than that I find myself frustrated and just take out the microSD card and browse it on my computer. Also don't buy the sense kit. It just doesn't work. I've even tried experiments with it right next to the camera and it's not consistent enough. If you want to use the wyze cams are generic IP cameras they offer unsupported firmware for that but then you'll need to roll your own DVR and I'm not sure if that supports all the new features the V3 offers or follows the genric protocol for remote pan control.

zucked 6y ago
Wyze cameras have open source firmware that can be loaded (DaFang Hacks) that works pretty well. I've never used (or trusted) the Wyze firmware anywhere on my network, but I use a couple of Wyze cameras pointed outwards from my house connected to a a DVR with motion detection.
- vineyardmike 6y ago
  Not sure when you bought yours but i haven't been able to get DaFang working in at least 18 months (due to OTA firmware updates before attempting DaFang)
dude3 6y ago
I find the Wyze cams great! Cheap. They do have 2 factor auth support for apps like Authy. It doesn't sound like you have enabled the premium features. Person detection is really good for exterior facing cams. Hook it up to Alexa Show and you have person detected notifications also access to any cam. Premium also has longer clips. For the price it's kind of OK to be semi locked down. I believe the reason for not supporting RTSP is because of hardware limitations on V2.
bredren 6y ago
I have used three wyze cams but only for pointing outside or to monitor plant growth. Here is an HD timelapse of a Monstera Deliciosa I made with one: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0NH2t1fJL9w&feature=emb_title https://youtube.com/watch?v=0NH2t1fJL9w&feature=emb_title The first thing I do with a wyze cam is physically remove the microphone, because it can only otherwise be turned off in software which is configured in the cloud. I'd consider using them with the OS firmware change, but hadn't thought of also running them on an independent network.
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bredren 6y ago

There were no "known" security issues with Verkada.

shakna 6y ago

A couple years back (2019) Wyze had a breach [0], which accidentally exposed another breach that they hadn't been aware of. This came just six months after a previous breach. But it suggested that Wyze can remotely disable all encryption and so on whenever they feel like it. And that for a "subset of users" they collected: "Height, Weight, Gender, Bone Density, Bone Mass, Daily Protein Intake, and other health information", which was included in the breached data. [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/30/business/wyze-security-camera-breach.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/30/business/wyze-security-ca...

xvector 6y ago

Why not use an E2EE solution, like HomeKit for your camera?