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Except Facebook had respected every single privacy toggle I ever set when I had my account. I looked this morning expecting to find an additional toggle and fo

by SllX 6y ago

Except Facebook had respected every single privacy toggle I ever set when I had my account. I looked this morning expecting to find an additional toggle and found several settings I thought were toggled off were toggled on. I was thinking this was an oversight on my part until I saw this thread, but now I’m not so sure.

luplex 6y ago
I'm pretty sure Facebook is really careful around this stuff. it's illegal for them to ignore your previously made privacy choices. Facebook can't afford to break the law in such an obvious way.
- SllX 6y ago
  No, I’m going to give them full kudos here, not the cynical “they have to be careful because reasons” type of kudos, but the full-bodied rich in flavor type of kudos. I created my account in 2007 and would regularly check the privacy settings every time they made a change of any kind up to the point I stopped using and later removed the account over a decade later. Not one privacy setting that I exerted manual control over ever changed out from under me. Whatever controversies they came under in that time with all the additional accompanying scrutiny, this aspect never changed. Perhaps there are counter examples out there, but that’s how it was for me.
  - cm2012 6y ago
    FB is more careful about privacy than 98% of companies their size.
    - samb1729 6y ago
      Do there exist 50 companies their size for that number to make sense?
    - luplex 6y ago
      I'd slightly modify that: FB is careful about privacy law, but its business model is about extracting private data.
      - cm2012 6y ago
        One example: The NYTimes will sell your name + home address to other advertisers to send you mail. FB does not share your personal information with anyone, it just lets people serve ads to you on the platform based on it.
    - scubazealous 6y ago
      They are careful about privacy when you are careful of your own. There are millions of users who do not change the default settings.
walkedaway 6y ago
Maybe recently, but early last decade (2010-ish) they didn't. It's why I haven't had a Facebook account since then. After opting out of sharing my data, I would see my data (namely, my Facebook friends likes) pop up on third-party websites.
- SllX 6y ago
  All of those asinine social widgets were loaded straight from Facebook.com, so it was less a case of sharing your info as it was if you were signed into Facebook, then those widgets would behave as if they were on Facebook and not a third party site. I also don’t recall if there were settings for those things, probably not because learning how else Facebook used those widgets to profile me was what prompted me to quarantine Facebook to Chrome, blacklist Facebook’s domains in NoScript and reduce then eliminate my usage.

by SllX 6y ago

luplex 6y ago

I'm pretty sure Facebook is really careful around this stuff. it's illegal for them to ignore your previously made privacy choices. Facebook can't afford to break the law in such an obvious way.

SllX 6y ago
No, I’m going to give them full kudos here, not the cynical “they have to be careful because reasons” type of kudos, but the full-bodied rich in flavor type of kudos. I created my account in 2007 and would regularly check the privacy settings every time they made a change of any kind up to the point I stopped using and later removed the account over a decade later. Not one privacy setting that I exerted manual control over ever changed out from under me. Whatever controversies they came under in that time with all the additional accompanying scrutiny, this aspect never changed. Perhaps there are counter examples out there, but that’s how it was for me.
- cm2012 6y ago
  FB is more careful about privacy than 98% of companies their size.
  - samb1729 6y ago
    Do there exist 50 companies their size for that number to make sense?
  - luplex 6y ago
    I'd slightly modify that: FB is careful about privacy law, but its business model is about extracting private data.
    - cm2012 6y ago
      One example: The NYTimes will sell your name + home address to other advertisers to send you mail. FB does not share your personal information with anyone, it just lets people serve ads to you on the platform based on it.
  - scubazealous 6y ago
    They are careful about privacy when you are careful of your own. There are millions of users who do not change the default settings.

walkedaway 6y ago

Maybe recently, but early last decade (2010-ish) they didn't. It's why I haven't had a Facebook account since then. After opting out of sharing my data, I would see my data (namely, my Facebook friends likes) pop up on third-party websites.

SllX 6y ago
All of those asinine social widgets were loaded straight from Facebook.com, so it was less a case of sharing your info as it was if you were signed into Facebook, then those widgets would behave as if they were on Facebook and not a third party site. I also don’t recall if there were settings for those things, probably not because learning how else Facebook used those widgets to profile me was what prompted me to quarantine Facebook to Chrome, blacklist Facebook’s domains in NoScript and reduce then eliminate my usage.